This section is where you can post topics related to Challenges from other websites, such as Formula-BOINC, SETI-Germany and BOINCstats, as well as project challenges such as from WCG, PrimeGrid et al.
As a Team, we really want to engage as many team members with these challenges, as this gives us a great way of attracting more members to our Team...plus we get to show our strengths as a Team by (hopefully) doing well in each one.
An important item from the POEM website, concerning the POEM-Athon;
May 5, 2008 - CASP8 starting
CASP8 is approaching and POEM@HOME is participating. The first targets are expected to be released tomorrow. Once the first CASP related workunits are out, the normal workunit count will be decreased to put more importance to the CASP related ones.
I'm off on holiday tomorrow, so no crunching for a week!
I'll be back on the 'puter some time on the 1st June, the opening day of the POEM-Athon. I've cleared my 'Tasks' and will be crunching 'nowt but POEM from then!
I'll try and keep you up to date with stats and positions during the month and hope that you'll join me in trying to put UBT up there with the leaders!
Thanks Mark! Would have been back sooner, but I got off hols only to find someone had 'nicked' the forum!!
So, we're into the second day of the POEM-Athon, I hope all you 'farmers' have got at least one box crunching POEM!
You can get the latest stats from the POEM@home message boards, or just click HERE and I'll keep us up to date with the stats!
We're in a, frankly poor, 18/20 position at the moment. So we need more people to crunch POEM for this challange!
Don't worry that the 'Time to Overtake' columns say 'unreachable', that doesn't mean we can't catch the next team! We just need more credits/day to move up the stats!
!!POEM-Athon '08....UK BOINC Team!!
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We've improved on yesterdays output, in fact going on the last 4hrs average output we'll pass 'Canada' and go up into 17th place in 7hrs 50mins!
Can we have a quick roll-call on who is crunching POEM for the team during the POEM-Athon? The ones I already know are below;
melter65
JoshRandom
Sir Cracked
The Prof
MickyB
Mikee
I'm not pointing fingers at anyone not crunching POEM, but I'd like to know if we can raise enough people to make it worth while participating in future POEM challenges! (I'll also admit that I'm 'touting' for the job of POEM Cheerleader as well! )
!!POEM-Athon '08....UK BOINC Team!!
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I have just put my amd on poem and my p4 3 gig will start it after this nice 20 hr ABC (10 hrs to go ) 2000 credits ???? :lol: :lol: :lol:
But my bangers (p3's ) are going to keep Nqueens ticking over as poem would kill them :lol: :lol: :lol:
Should be able to throw the P4 2.7 on it in the morning
Thats 5 chips from me .....anyone else care to join ???
Having a look at the stats for this and thought it a little strange that ESL could manage 5 million credits so quickly. Okay they got a team membership of 26,500 so it's possible but I had another look.
Check these two pages and compare the 'credit per day last 60 days' graphs.
Strange how the ups and downs for the last 2 weeks virtually match. I'd have expected the overall total to remain around the 85,000 mark as members ditched projects to swap to POEM, I would not have expected a matching increase. I would certainly not expected the total output to DOUBLE in the last 2 weeks!
Still not convinced? Check the 60 day graphs for the #2 team then...
Their overall output has actually dropped slightly as POEM started so it does seem that their members dropped projects to swap over.
The only reason I can think for this is a sudden influx of members. Looking at the POEM data it seems this is the case as every single member (well 4,727 out of 4,729 of them) has registered at POEM during the last month. Where have they come from? Has there been a team merger where the incoming members where required to do only POEM? If so it seems the timing is very convenient for the challenge.
As Mark points out, we've climbed a place to 17th position!
But you have to remember, this is a 'marathon', not a sprint (as the PG Birthday thingy will be!) So we may catch up to some of the other teams, if they start losing interest and their top crunchers wander off to other projects!
Having a look at the stats for this and thought it a little strange that ESL could manage 5 million credits so quickly. Okay they got a team membership of 26,500 so it's possible but I had another look.
Check these two pages and compare the 'credit per day last 60 days' graphs.
Strange how the ups and downs for the last 2 weeks virtually match. I'd have expected the overall total to remain around the 85,000 mark as members ditched projects to swap to POEM, I would not have expected a matching increase. I would certainly not expected the total output to DOUBLE in the last 2 weeks!
Still not convinced? Check the 60 day graphs for the #2 team then...
Their overall output has actually dropped slightly as POEM started so it does seem that their members dropped projects to swap over.
The only reason I can think for this is a sudden influx of members. Looking at the POEM data it seems this is the case as every single member (well 4,727 out of 4,729 of them) has registered at POEM during the last month. Where have they come from? Has there been a team merger where the incoming members where required to do only POEM? If so it seems the timing is very convenient for the challenge.
I'll leave it with you m'lud!
ESL mainly crunch Rosetta with 50% of their total credits.
Poem and Rosetta are both involved in the CASP8 competition and a lot of ESL have switched from Rosetta to Poem.
Poem grants higher credit than Rosetta so their daily output rises
Same machine and most Rosetta results are about the same, Poem varies more but you can see what a difference there is
Secs Claimed Granted
12,931 27.70 42.07 11.7/Hour (Rosetta)
6,436 13.79 29.07 16.3/hour (Poem)
7,247 15.52 43.93 21.8/hour (Poem)
From almost 40% higher credit on Poem to over 85% more
We need to keep up the crunching! Canada are gaining slightly, and we don't want them to retake 17th position!
Thanks for the explanation of the high credits of the ESL team, Mark. I was thinking the same way as Mikee, and it's quite easy to see why Mikee had those suspicions!
Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote:If they don't start giving out WU's soon I will have to bin it.
Is anyone else having problems? I'm OK, not having any wu issues at all
Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote:It will still only let me have the two units im working on, nothing in the tank if there is a server problem.
I normally hold 6 days of stock.
I've got my cache set at 5 days and have 1 wu running and 3 wu's ready to start. I think there are so many people crunching this project at the moment that they are probably rationing the wu's.
HERE are todays Stats. BOINC.BE are pulling away from us at, roughly 2000 credits/day. Canada will pass us and retake 17th place, in approx 19 days! Keep Crunching!
UBT-mark3346 wrote:
ESL mainly crunch Rosetta with 50% of their total credits.
Poem and Rosetta are both involved in the CASP8 competition and a lot of ESL have switched from Rosetta to Poem.
Poem grants higher credit than Rosetta so their daily output rises
Same machine and most Rosetta results are about the same, Poem varies more but you can see what a difference there is
Secs Claimed Granted
12,931 27.70 42.07 11.7/Hour (Rosetta)
6,436 13.79 29.07 16.3/hour (Poem)
7,247 15.52 43.93 21.8/hour (Poem)
From almost 40% higher credit on Poem to over 85% more
paranoid hat can be removed
Not yet!
Their total output has increased from around 800,000/day to 1,700,000/day in the space of a few weeks. I can't believe that this is due to 18% of their members just switching projects. ((4987/26684)X100)
If POEM is the cause then the increase would not be that much, even if the credit granted was double what they were getting before. If it was double then the total output would only be 800,000 X 1.36 = 1,088,000 (800,000 daily output being what they had to start with, 1.36 being the 18% doubled). There is still a huge disparity of around 600,000 daily credits - these credits being POEM output.
I'm not convinced yet, but I'm going to wind my neck in for now in case it gets chopped off!
Has anyone else 'lost' the 'CPU Time', 'Progress' and 'To Completion' figures in POEM? Still crunching, but BOINC Manager is showing this project like it's an alpha project!!
Another way to calculate this
Rosetta output down approx 100k/day would be replaced with up to 186k poem output.
WCG output down around the same amount could be well over 200k worth of poem as WCG credit is so poor.
Spinhenge down 50k really poor credit hour (less than 4) could give over 250k credit on poem.
So three projects output down 250K could be replaced with over 700k on poem
Output is also down on einstein, proteins, qmc, nqueens and possibly others as well and as long as the credit lost was at a lower hourly rate than credit granted on poem their output will rise.
What ever the reason for the credits they are having a cracking good team go at the poem/casp8 challenge.
melter65 wrote:Has anyone else 'lost' the 'CPU Time', 'Progress' and 'To Completion' figures in POEM? Still crunching, but BOINC Manager is showing this project like it's an alpha project!!
Mine is ok on the 5 machines I have running (Boinc ver 5.10.28 )
melter65 wrote:Has anyone else 'lost' the 'CPU Time', 'Progress' and 'To Completion' figures in POEM? Still crunching, but BOINC Manager is showing this project like it's an alpha project!!
Everything's fine here Mr Melter (I'm running BOINC 5.10.8 on Ubuntu). :?
melter65 wrote:Has anyone else 'lost' the 'CPU Time', 'Progress' and 'To Completion' figures in POEM? Still crunching, but BOINC Manager is showing this project like it's an alpha project!!
Everything's fine here Mr Melter (I'm running BOINC 5.10.8 on Ubuntu). :?
Mmmm.....I'm running v6.2.2 on windoze, so that might explain it!
You'll see that we've pulled back BOINC.BE to a 20 day 'overtake', based on the last 4hrs results. We can also welcome NaRyan to the challange, I was talking to him last night and he's put a few boxes on it!
I have noticed one thing with melter65's results.
The Task Details all say this.
<core_client_version>6.2.2</core_client_version>
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2000 credits ???? :lol: :lol: :lol: 
