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New project: Parlea@home

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Hi all

A new BOINC project has started up recently:

http://parlea.ru/boinctest/

UBT now has a team on this project here:

http://parlea.ru/boinctest/team_display.php?teamid=16

(And thanks to Carl for the heads-up on this project !)

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Anyone had success with this yet? I can't get any tasks
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stephenhunter wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:07 pm Anyone had success with this yet? I can't get any tasks
Hi Stephen

I've not had any tasks yet - it seems it is in it's early days, so I suspect (hope?) it ramps them up in due course.

I've left its "Resource share" to 100, while I try to hit some milestones on a few other projects (with lower resource shares set within BOINC Manager).

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stephenhunter wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:07 pm Anyone had success with this yet? I can't get any tasks
Hi Stephen

One of my hosts has been able to get some tasks from Parlea, and these took very little time to crunch and I got 21 credits (in total) for the 45 tasks the host completed.

More are available now, so hopefully you've got/had some already?

(But note that the website seems to be a bit flaky as 88 tasks failed to download to this host, due to "http errors").

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I will keep on it. Guess it's just a case of waiting for them to be fully online
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I could be wrong but I believe the tasks are Windows only.
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Bloody Windows! It should be banned :)
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ChelseaOilman wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:22 am I could be wrong but I believe the tasks are Windows only.
Hi Carl

Yup - confirmed:

http://parlea.ru/boinctest/apps.php

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Platform							Version	Created				Average computing
Microsoft Windows running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU	0.04	15 Dec 2022, 19:38:17 UTC	564 GigaFLOPS
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Don't expect this to be a robust running project. I suspect this is run by a college student on very minimal hardware. It's going to be down more than it's up.

From the website:
The project was created as part of the final qualifying work.

Institute of NUST MISiS, Department of Engineering Cybernetics
Student Dolgov Andrey Andreevich
Scientific Supervisor Associate Professor, Ph.D. Kurochkin Ilya Ilyich
You need to babysit and do a lot of manual work to get any tasks as well as upload them and then report the finished tasks. I only have a goal of 1 million points and then I'm done with this project. It's simply to much work. I'm a quarter of the way to my goal right now.
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From the Slack channel for my old team:
coleslaw 19 minutes ago
The guy is running it on a VM with only 20GB or dedicated space. It is a test server to learn how to run a BOINC server before migrating it to something else. I think if he gave it reasonable space, we wouldn't have so many issues but at least he was up front about the limitations.

If you have Discord and are signed up for the BOINCNetwork channel just search for "drus". If you need an invite to join the channel I can probably do that.
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HI Carl

Thanks for the heads-up on this project.

As of a couple of minutes ago, the project was not accepting any completed work units AND when it went offline, I've been left with many "Failed downloads".

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Program					Host		Status
Download server				parlea.ru	Running
Upload server				parlea.ru	Running
Scheduler				parlea		Not Running
feeder					parlea		Not Running
transitioner				parlea		Not Running
file_deleter				parlea		Not Running
sample_bitwise_validator (gt_cl)	parlea		Not Running
sample_assimilator (gt_cl)		parlea		Not Running
db_purge				parlea		Not Running
The admin hasn't even configured the "Commumity Message Boards" making it difficult to actually contact the admin or other users so it is not easy to provide any feedback. And yes it is a "test" project, so there are limitations so that the admin(s) can learn how to set up a good project.

So, everything must be taken at "face value" and I will not be expecting much from this project.

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Hi all

The parlea.ru website seems to be totally offline now... :-(

http://parlea.ru - which just shows a "Ubuntu / Apache 2" test page :-(

Hopefully they can restore the site, as I'd just been able to upload some completed tasks...so, I hope they will be able to put it back as it was, from a backup !

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FYI, Parlea is up right now. Get your tasks while you can!
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From Discord:
drus — Today at 3:20 PM
Hi guys, we have restored the work of the project www.parlea.ru/boinctest/, now the results are backed up twice a day and there should be no problems with lack of memory. Also we started the first experiment, we need to calculate about 1.5kk of working units., so if it's not difficult for you, resume computing if possible
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ChelseaOilman wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:24 pm FYI, Parlea is up right now. Get your tasks while you can!
Hi Carl

I just went to check and the website says:
Not Found
The requested URL was not found on this server.

Apache/2.4.51 (Unix) Server at www.parlea.ru Port 80

There is also a problem with the root domain, http://parlea.ru at their service provider "beget"
This domain is not linked to any directory on the server!

What does it mean, and how do I link it?
Linking domain means mapping it to its directory, thus making the website online. If the domain is not linked, you will be able to view this page only.

If you're the domain owner please link it in the "Sites" section of the control panel.
You can read more here.
Is the problem solved? Try to reset the cache
Clear the cache automatically
Reload the page by pressing
Clear the cache from your browser settings
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I'm getting tasks. http://parlea.ru/boinctest/

Not appearing on stats though
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UBT - Timbo wrote: There is also a problem with the root domain, https://parlea.ru at their service provider "beget"
Drop the "s" off https.
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stephenhunter wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:44 pm I'm getting tasks. http://parlea.ru/boinctest/

Not appearing on stats though
If your talking about BOINCstats, the project isn't listed there yet, if ever.

Your stats are here: http://parlea.ru/boinctest/top_users.ph ... &offset=20

The team is at #2 right now: http://parlea.ru/boinctest/top_teams.php
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ChelseaOilman wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:27 pm
UBT - Timbo wrote: There is also a problem with the root domain, https://parlea.ru at their service provider "beget"
Drop the "s" off https.
Yup - done - slip of the fingers+brain, when typing :-(

AND edited the website referral URL from parlAa.ru to parlEa.ru !

AND their web server ( http://www.parlea.ru/boinctest/ ) is still giving out "404" errors (as of 5pm GMT today):
Not Found
The requested URL was not found on this server.

Apache/2.4.51 (Unix) Server at www.parlea.ru Port 80
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ChelseaOilman wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:32 pm Your stats are here: http://parlea.ru/boinctest/top_users.ph ... &offset=20

The team is at #2 right now: http://parlea.ru/boinctest/top_teams.php
Nice, I see you are doing most of the heavy lifting :clap:
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UBT - Timbo wrote:AND their web server ( http://www.parlea.ru/boinctest/ ) is still giving out "404" errors (as of 5pm GMT today)
You keep adding in stuff to the web address you don't need. Drop the www.
Use this address: http://parlea.ru/boinctest
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stephenhunter wrote:Nice, I see you are doing most of the heavy lifting :clap:
Right now I'm past 1.5 million and am the #1 producer. The team is #1 as well!
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ChelseaOilman wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:43 pm You keep adding in stuff to the web address you don't need. Drop the www.
Use this address: http://parlea.ru/boinctest
Hi Carl

Basically the admins have not configured their web server correctly so that the "www" is accessible as well as the "non www" URL version, via port 80 (or port 8080 in some cases).

I simply used the www version which is what the default web server *should* use....rather than the shortened version which is the "lazy" version ;-)

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ChelseaOilman wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:49 pm Right now I'm past 1.5 million and am the #1 producer. The team is #1 as well!
That's a *huge* total, in such a short period of time too - so well done Carl.

I've done my little bit, for now...though I've stopped crunching these tasks for the time being, so that I can monitor how well they can manage their project - I had over 300 tasks (with deadlines of 2nd Jan) that were in "limbo" when they had an outage for a few days.

And having checked my account today, I cannot tell how many of these tasks earned credits, or were given 0 credits due to the project server being offline before/after this deadline - as they have deleted all the history of returned work units from my account.

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I haven't had any issues with the project in the last 24 hours. The improvements he mentioned in his post in Discord seem to have fixed things. I noticed the number of available tasks got low but went back up again. I'll keep running this project until things go south. Hopefully he keeps things going for a while.
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Right now Discord is the only way to find out what the developer is doing.
His most recent post in Discord:
drus — Today at 12:36 PM
Yep, you're right. One of the tasks of the ODLC project is used as a computational application in the current experiment, and it is quite possible that the complexity of the tasks varies greatly. Since parlea is a test project, for now it is important for us to track the behavior of a grid system with a large number of nodes, and the implementation of various computing applications. Including app related to neural networks, is also planned. The main goal is to debug and test a complex grid system from different devices, after which a separate project is planned based on these developments.

We are saving the results of the current experiment and will pass them on to colleagues from Gerasim for analysis.

By the way, the question is, is it a problem that the complexity of the workunits varies greatly? Now I see that some of the invalid responses come with the error 197 (0x000000C5) EXIT_TIME_LIMIT_EXCEEDED, it turns out that the node does not even try to count them and fail the result.

Does anyone know how it could be fixed?
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Stats for this project won't be shown on BOINCstats any time soon.
https://www.boincstats.com/forum/11/12882,1#154423

From Willy:
I have decided not to add this project to either BAM! nor the stats. The project is based in Russia and we are in no way certain what the project actually does. Russia is the aggressor in the war in Ukraine and I do not intend to support them. If after the war and proper rehabilitation of Russia the project still exists then the project can be added.

Change my mind.

P.S. I'm aware there are three other active Russia based projects. These have existed for quite some time and have established themselves as trusted projects.
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Fair point
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I doubt Parlea is even exporting stats data. I've stopped running it until this changes.
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