Projects for Mini Crunch 23rd Feb - 25th Feb

UBT - Halifax-lad · Post by **UBT - Halifax-lad** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:33 am

The projects to be crunched over this coming weekend are to be:

PrimeGrid
Einstein@Home

They both got 6 votes each.

So its over to UBT members to crunch either one of these projects or even both, starting from 23rd Feb. You can start early if you want won't be penalised for it

Einstein@Home needs 3,672,191 credits to get us to number 2, that will be a hard slog for many months to come

Primegrid needs 148,595.55 credits to number 1, on top of this the team would need to keep up a decent RAC to keep the number 1 spot

In addition PrimeGrid has an option to run any test applications, it would be helpful to switch this on in your profile here, this means if any normal work runs out then at least if the test work is available it will keep BOINC going

Edit: As always this is voluntary so please do not feel pressurised in to participating with this crunch

Edit2: In the unlikely event both projects are down QMC will be the next project to choose from

Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:40 am

It's worth noting that Einstein is not firing on all cylinders at the moment. It seems to have a bit of a problem with its servers. It's giving and receiving work OK but it is not giving credit properly. My pending count is up to 1900+ at the moment which is 5x my RAC. Most of the workunits have been completed by all in the quorum but they remain pending.

There are many rumbles about this in the Einstein forum and some are complaining of pending counts well over 5K.

Also, given that the last crunch was for Einstein I think a concerted effort for PrimeGrid would be a safer and fairer option.

Chris.

UBT - Terry · Post by **UBT - Terry** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:14 pm

All very well but no work from project Prime grid

Post by **UBT - Mikee** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:18 pm

Ah yes but no but....

2007-02-17 15:01:14 UTC Suspending Primegen work for the weekend
I am suspending work generation for one of the PrimeGrid applications, primegen, to help clear out assimilation and database cleanup queues. Work for LLR application will be issued as usual. Work generation for primegen will be reenabled in the Sunday evening (Europe time).
To get LLR work during primegen outage, go to PrimeGrid preferences page and enable test applications.

UBT - Halifax-lad · Post by **UBT - Halifax-lad** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:29 pm

Terry Caney wrote:All very well but no work from project Prime grid

Looks like someone did not read my 1st post correctly :withstupid:

UBT - Halifax-lad · Post by **UBT - Halifax-lad** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:30 pm

UBT - Chris Suddick wrote:
Also, given that the last crunch was for Einstein I think a concerted effort for PrimeGrid would be a safer and fairer option.

Chris.

Its up to you what is crunched there are two options available this time around at least.

UBT - Terry · Post by **UBT - Terry** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:38 pm

Yeah sorry had kid screaming at the time

Terry

Post by **UBT - bobuk** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:46 pm

ime running full steam ahead with prime grid there is plenty of work to do.

"To get LLR work during primegen outage, go to PrimeGrid preferences page and enable test applications."

these wu's seem to be a wee bit faster to complete ....

b.

Rockinfroggi · Post by **Rockinfroggi** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:22 pm

Although I originally voted for Einstein I think Primgrid make much more sense for this mini crunch so I'm gonna finish my current commitments then put everything on Primgrid, even the washing machine and microwave if I can hook `em up to my network.

Gary.

Timby · Post by **Timby** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:31 pm

Okey Dokey Primegrid it is then, will start to run down ABC@home and steam on with PG once they have finished 8)

UBT - The Prof.... · Post by **UBT - The Prof....** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:26 pm

Have added prime grid for the duration.

All other projects now set to "no new tasks", first 2 prime grid wu's loaded and ready to roll...

Post by **UBT - Chris Suddick** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:28 pm

I've just added PrimeGrid and found out that this is another windows only project. So, I'm afraid I'm out of this one.

Chris.

RodEllery · Post by **RodEllery** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:29 am

Just tried to get some PrimeGrid wus but none there, either 'normal' or test. Looks like it may have to be just Einstein this weekend.

UBT - Terry · Post by **UBT - Terry** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:20 am

Plenty of work @primegrid test wu's

DJH@GB-Ro · Post by **DJH@GB-Ro** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:05 pm

Just got 65ish proper (not test) WUs

RodEllery · Post by **RodEllery** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:15 pm

Well according to the project page there are about 700 unsent results up there, However it doesnt want to send me any. :(

20/02/2007 12:00:48|PrimeGrid|Requesting 55279 seconds of new work
20/02/2007 12:00:53|PrimeGrid|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 507]
20/02/2007 12:00:53|PrimeGrid|Deferring communication for 4 min 25 sec
20/02/2007 12:00:53|PrimeGrid|Reason: no work from project

Project is also set to allow test WUs. (I also tried changing this from yes to no but it makes no difference.) Finally I've just tried detaching and re-attaching, Now getting report back that project is temporarily unavailable..

... I'll give it another go later.

Gary · Post by **Gary** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:39 pm

Rod, do you have anything else running ? I couldn't download any primegrid wu until I temporary suspended sap.

RodEllery · Post by **RodEllery** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:54 pm

Yeah, loads of stuff. I set everything to 'no new tasks', suspended everythingthat was running, but still nothing from Primegrid. Allowed another project to get work and it downloaded ok. Will keep an eye on situation.

I also have noticed a bit of an oddity with Xtreme. I suspended a couple of wus, when playing with PrimeGrid. When all was resumed, the Xtreme WUs were shown as waiting to run (another project was running). However the %complete on these Xtreme WUs went slowly up with no CPU time increase till they reached 100%. These WUs were uploaded and gave (minimal) Credits but had obvoiusly not been processed correctly. I'm beginning to think there may be a few problems with BOINC 5.8.11.

Gary · Post by **Gary** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:00 pm

RodEllery wrote:. I'm beginning to think there may be a few problems with BOINC 5.8.11.

5.8.11 didn't work for me, had to reinstall 5.8.8 now it stops crunching & hangs occasionally only option is to reset pc.

RodEllery · Post by **RodEllery** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:40 pm

I've just reverted to 5.4.11. Still PrimeGrid reports nothing to download, even with all other projects suspended.

20/02/2007 14:31:32|PrimeGrid|Sending scheduler request to http://www.primegrid.com/cgi/index.cgi
20/02/2007 14:31:32|PrimeGrid|Reason: To fetch work
20/02/2007 14:31:32|PrimeGrid|Requesting 172800 seconds of new work
20/02/2007 14:31:38|PrimeGrid|Scheduler request succeeded
20/02/2007 14:31:38|PrimeGrid|No work from project
20/02/2007 14:31:38|PrimeGrid|Deferring scheduler requests for 1 minutes and 0 seconds

All other projects seem ok.(I've now got 158hrs of WUs to complete across 12 projects).

Post by **UBT-mark3346** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:54 pm

RodEllery wrote:

I also have noticed a bit of an oddity with Xtreme. I suspended a couple of wus, when playing with PrimeGrid. When all was resumed, the Xtreme WUs were shown as waiting to run (another project was running). However the %complete on these Xtreme WUs went slowly up with no CPU time increase till they reached 100%. These WUs were uploaded and gave (minimal) Credits but had obvoiusly not been processed correctly. I'm beginning to think there may be a few problems with BOINC 5.8.11.

As far as I know Xtreme has always done this, certainly did it on the previous version of Boinc

Post by **UBT - Mikee** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:03 pm

RodEllery wrote:Yeah, loads of stuff. I set everything to 'no new tasks', suspended everythingthat was running, but still nothing from Primegrid. Allowed another project to get work and it downloaded ok. Will keep an eye on situation.

I also have noticed a bit of an oddity with Xtreme. I suspended a couple of wus, when playing with PrimeGrid. When all was resumed, the Xtreme WUs were shown as waiting to run (another project was running). However the %complete on these Xtreme WUs went slowly up with no CPU time increase till they reached 100%. These WUs were uploaded and gave (minimal) Credits but had obvoiusly not been processed correctly. I'm beginning to think there may be a few problems with BOINC 5.8.11.

That's the way Xtreme works.

As for downloading other WUs you can suspend but it takes a while for the manager to realise that there's nothing to do. I think it's supposed to do that in case of something can't think what though. I suggest you suspend everything except one project and primegrid. Once the manager has realised it's running short it'll start downloading them. Also make sure that the 'Connect to network about every...' in preferences is set high enough. Mines set to 2 days.

HTH

Mike

RodEllery · Post by **RodEllery** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:39 pm

For now all except Prime and Einstein set to no new tasks. As each project with WUs outstanding finishes said work, am setting to suspend. All Projects with no WUs downloaded also set to suspend. Just a case of wait and see now.

UBT - Janea · Post by **UBT - Janea** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:28 am

I'm getting PrimeGrid WU's through with no problems but I've not had any Einstein since our last mini crunch. I've not done anything to it - it appears to be connecting if I press Update. I've tried shutting down BOINC and restarting but no luck :( All my other projects seem to be getting WU's (if there is any available).

I guess I'll just have to see what the rest of the weekend brings.

Alan Pull · Post by **Alan Pull** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:12 pm

Jane,

It might help if you temporarily set all other projects to "suspend", and then update Einsein. Wish you luck.

Alan

UBT - Rick Horn · Post by **UBT - Rick Horn** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:43 pm

UBT - Janea wrote:I'm getting PrimeGrid WUs through with no problems but I've not had any Einstein since our last mini crunch. I've not done anything to it - it appears to be connecting if I press Update. I've tried shutting down BOINC and restarting but no luck :( All my other projects seem to be getting WUs (if there is any available).

I guess I'll just have to see what the rest of the weekend brings.

I`ve had this problem from time to time with Einstein.
Try going to Projects on Boinc Manager, click on Einstein, then click on "reset project".
Hope it works for you.
Rick.

UBT - Janea · Post by **UBT - Janea** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:04 am

Alan Pull wrote:Jane,

It might help if you temporarily set all other projects to "suspend", and then update Einsein. Wish you luck.

Alan

Thanks Alan I'd already tried this - and had closed and re-opened BOINC Manager, and also set Einstein to "No new tasks" for a minute or two before changing it back.

But an hour or so after I left the message I got a WU through from them. Unfortunately I've started to get the famous "exited with zero status......might have to reset the task message"

Gonna leave it until the morning now though and see if it sorts it self out. Sometimes they do seem to ....

Night all :cya:

UBT - Halifax-lad · Post by **UBT - Halifax-lad** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:48 pm

I have set PrimeGrid to no new work, BURP has work available so doing some of that

UBT - Janea · Post by **UBT - Janea** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:38 pm

Thought I might try a little BURP but have been informed that I've not got enough memory. Well it IS late at night and I've not had much sleep this weekend so my brain is not functioning at full capacity - memory mode has been reduced to enable me to concentrate on typing).

Managed to get a fair few PrimeGrids done but Einstein was a complete waste of time for me. Tried half a dozen WU's and each one exited with zero status several times after running for hours and I had to reset them. Normally it's been pretty good for me.

Oh well - I shall do a few Chess units before opening my PC up to all and sundry.

Night all and well done. (Haven't we got a :yawn: or bed-time smiley - Zebedee?)

UBT - Halifax-lad · Post by **UBT - Halifax-lad** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:47 pm

Oh well never mind on the BURP front when it gets better you should be able to get work

For now don't forget to vote on the next crunch