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Hi all
FYI: I've not given up on the PG Challenge...but I have disallowed network access until tonights Sprint* is announced as I've been bunkering some CPU projects as PG wasn't giving me many.
Once the announcement is made and depending on which project is chosen, then I may re-allow network access...it just depends on whether PG needs my credits more than the FB Sprint project does
*The Sprint starts at 10pm BST tomorrow, while the PG Challenge ends at 12 noon BST...and I can't selectively upgrade some tasks and not others
regards
Tim
FYI: I've not given up on the PG Challenge...but I have disallowed network access until tonights Sprint* is announced as I've been bunkering some CPU projects as PG wasn't giving me many.
Once the announcement is made and depending on which project is chosen, then I may re-allow network access...it just depends on whether PG needs my credits more than the FB Sprint project does
*The Sprint starts at 10pm BST tomorrow, while the PG Challenge ends at 12 noon BST...and I can't selectively upgrade some tasks and not others
regards
Tim
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Any wise (or wild) guesses on the Formula sprint target? Depending how we're tracking on PG, I could possibly re-point and bunker from tomorrow AM ...
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viewtopic.php?f=93&t=6400UBT - Timbo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:06 pm*The Sprint starts at 10pm BST tomorrow, while the PG Challenge ends at 12 noon BST...and I can't selectively upgrade some tasks and not others
Block the Formula Boinc project, turn network access back on, PrimeGrid will update.
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There's no way of telling, it's a random number generated by Sebastein that picks a project and then he/project owners manually accept it or not.Damien Healy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:23 pm Any wise (or wild) guesses on the Formula sprint target? Depending how we're tracking on PG, I could possibly re-point and bunker from tomorrow AM ...
Choices left are:
Acoustics@home
Asteroids@home
BURP
Citizen Science Grid
Collatz Conjecture
Cosmology@home
DENIS@Home
DHEP
Enigma@home
LHC@home 1.0
ODLK
ODLK1
Rosetta@home
Universe@Home
VGTU@home
Wanless Mersenne +2
XANSONS for COD
Yafu
Yoyo@home
It won't be Acoustics, DENIS, DHEP, VGTU or Xansons as they're dead projects.
It won't be BURP as it has no work.
It won't be Citizen Science as they only export stats every couple of days or so.
It shouldn't be LHC as that's almost only virtual box and people would complain (although it did get chosen last year ... and people DID complain )
It shouldn't be Wanless as that's only Linux and people would complain.
Most of the others were used last year so could be chosen.
So:
Asteroids@home
Collatz Conjecture
Cosmology@home
Enigma@home
ODLK
ODLK1
Rosetta@home
Universe@Home
Yafu
Yoyo@home
Statistically it should be a CPU project as there's only Collatz left as pure GPU.
As I haven't been bunkering anything yet and I'm only going to be able to start once I get home tonight, I'm planning on leaving my GPUs on PrimeGrid and just bunkering CPU tasks once I know what it is (no speculative bunkers)
Mark
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Thanks Mark, helpful!
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At least you'll have more chance of picking the right project than you have of winning the lottery ... less rewarding though.
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Hi Mark
Actually, Asteroids supports GPUs very nicely - and uses just 0.01 of a CPU per task, so you can run 100% of your CPUs and run Asteroids too.
In fact, Asteroids is the GPU project I'm bunkering and have been for the last three Sprints, though two Sprints didn't happen.
The other CPU project I've been bunkering is ODLK1, (aka latinsquares) whicj uses just about 1Mb of RAM for each task...making it very suitable if you use the PC for other (non-BOINC) work.
regards
Tim
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Ah, now that's useful. I can also block the IP at the router / gateway level rather than directly in windows. I can therefore keep hammering PG while bunkering a CPU Formula project. If it does end up being asteroids and that supports GPUs, then that would be trickier.Woodles wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:25 pm viewtopic.php?f=93&t=6400
Block the Formula Boinc project, turn network access back on, PrimeGrid will update.
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The rate will continue until the end of the Challenge.If Chris carries on at that rate..
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Hi Chris
Great! We are really putting on some pace now.
Great! We are really putting on some pace now.
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Hey Mark, Damien,.. Tim, et al
It will be interesting to see if Dutch Power Cows and Rechenkraft.net up their game now; especially Rechenkraft as I'm pretty sure they have the GPU firepower.
It will be interesting to see if Dutch Power Cows and Rechenkraft.net up their game now; especially Rechenkraft as I'm pretty sure they have the GPU firepower.
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Indeed! We are literally about to take #13 from Rechenkraft. I'm genuinely excited, ha!
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Good to hear, thanks Chris.chriscambridge wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:17 pmThe rate will continue until the end of the Challenge.If Chris carries on at that rate..
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Thirteenth now (couldn't check earlier)Damien Healy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:56 pm Indeed! We are literally about to take #13 from Rechenkraft. I'm genuinely excited, ha!
... and that Damien chap has shot into the UBT number one position (not sure if there's a connection)
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#11 now, overtaking the Dutch and Australians overnight
EVGA at #10 looks way to far off. Hoping we can hold #11 though!
EVGA at #10 looks way to far off. Hoping we can hold #11 though!
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Excellent news
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Into the final hour and a half:
As noted previously, Rechenkraft passed .... along with Australia AND the Power Cows
UBT into a very impressive eleventh place out of 125.
I think EVGA have too much of a lead though for tenth place.
*counted incorrectly before
Damien shoots into top UBT cruncher for the challenge.
Chris becomes top finder with two AP23s.
Jason and Lupus join in to make thirteen UBT members in this challenge.
Mark
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Pos. Team Credits Tasks
8 Antarctic Crunchers 45,334,159 11,213
9 AMD Users 43,858,464 10,848
10 Crunching@EVGA 38,117,404 9,428
11 UK BOINC Team 27,702,636 6,852
12 Dutch Power Cows 26,728,273 6,611
13 BOINC@AUSTRALIA 26,380,575 6,525
14 Rechenkraft.net 26,012,662 6,434
UBT into a very impressive eleventh place out of 125.
I think EVGA have too much of a lead though for tenth place.
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APs found during the competition
Pos. Name Credits Tasks 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20
35 damienhealy 8,761,181 2,167 4 16 77
38 Woodles 8,162,817 2,019 4 10 33
53 ncoded.com 5,995,769 1,483 2 3 13 30
167 rimmer66 1,358,448 336 1 2
188 meddy2065 1,075,438 266 1 2 18 *
228 UBT - Timbo 715,611 177 1 3 7
243 Jeffers2112 610,493 151 1 1 6
275 Paul Griffin 420,472 104 1 8 *
280 Sean 396,214 98 1 *
316 UBT - Mikeejones 278,967 69 7
584 duncanr 8,086 2 *
=625 Jason 4,043 1
=625 LupusUK 4,043 1
Damien shoots into top UBT cruncher for the challenge.
Chris becomes top finder with two AP23s.
Jason and Lupus join in to make thirteen UBT members in this challenge.
Mark
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Final result barring any later discovered invalid tasks:
The Czechs and Sici were always going to take the top two places.
TAAT pass Germany in the last hour.
EVGA managed to hold on to their slender lead but UBT were closing fast
Homefarm comes from nowhere and steals top spot.
Fourteen team members is a good turn out for the challenge, I don't know if all of them were aware they were competing though
Mark
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Pos. Team Credits Tasks
1 Czech National Team 169,324,883 41,881
2 Sicituradastra. 135,788,198 33,586
3 TeAm AnandTech 95,564,391 23,637
4 SETI.Germany 95,208,607 23,549
5 [H]ard|OCP 88,646,818 21,926
6 Aggie The Pew 68,189,238 16,866
7 Storm 52,850,096 13,072
8 Antarctic Crunchers 46,134,673 11,411
9 AMD Users 45,103,708 11,156
10 Crunching@EVGA 38,756,198 9,586
11 UK BOINC Team 28,446,548 7,036
12 Dutch Power Cows 27,136,616 6,712
13 BOINC@AUSTRALIA 26,679,757 6,599
14 Rechenkraft.net 26,550,381 6,567
TAAT pass Germany in the last hour.
EVGA managed to hold on to their slender lead but UBT were closing fast
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Pos. Name Credits Tasks
31 Homefarm 9,978,124 2,468
35 damienhealy 8,935,030 2,210
38 Woodles 8,288,150 2,050
52 ncoded.com 6,270,693 1,551
168 rimmer66 1,374,620 340
190 meddy2065 1,083,524 268
230 UBT - Timbo 715,611 177
245 Jeffers2112 618,579 153
277 Paul Griffin 420,472 104
282 Sean 396,214 98
316 UBT - Mikeejones 278,967 69
586 duncanr 8,086 2
=629 Jason 4,043 1
=629 LupusUK 4,043 1
Fourteen team members is a good turn out for the challenge, I don't know if all of them were aware they were competing though
Mark
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I wonder if the stats might change some more.
Homefarm has delivered almost 10m, but then our team total didn’t jump up by that much?
Unless they were in our team total before but not in the user stats? Maybe that makes more sense as there seemed to be more team credits than we were producing on a user stat basis.
In any case, happy with #11. Feeling good about that
Homefarm has delivered almost 10m, but then our team total didn’t jump up by that much?
Unless they were in our team total before but not in the user stats? Maybe that makes more sense as there seemed to be more team credits than we were producing on a user stat basis.
In any case, happy with #11. Feeling good about that
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In fact, adding up the user stats you posted would put us very very close to EVGA / #10 ...
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I was wondering about Homefarm. They only (re)joined UBT in the last day but had work credited from way back.
Does PrimeGrid have a GDPR policy that they've only just agreed to so they were 'hidden' until now?
Does PrimeGrid have a GDPR policy that they've only just agreed to so they were 'hidden' until now?
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It’s rather curious isn’t it!
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Hi Mark,Woodles wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:18 pm Final result barring any later discovered invalid tasks:
Homefarm comes from nowhere and steals top spot.Code: Select all
Pos. Name Credits Tasks 31 Homefarm 9,978,124 2,468 35 damienhealy 8,935,030 2,210 38 Woodles 8,288,150 2,050 52 ncoded.com 6,270,693 1,551 168 rimmer66 1,374,620 340 190 meddy2065 1,083,524 268 230 UBT - Timbo 715,611 177 245 Jeffers2112 618,579 153 277 Paul Griffin 420,472 104 282 Sean 396,214 98 316 UBT - Mikeejones 278,967 69 586 duncanr 8,086 2 =629 Jason 4,043 1 =629 LupusUK 4,043 1
Fourteen team members is a good turn out for the challenge, I don't know if all of them were aware they were competing though
Mark
This is very strange...
According to ubtstats website:
1) Homefarm joined UBT on 26th Sept at 12:02 (or at least that's when the stats picked him/her up).
http://www.ubtstats.co.uk/ubt/ubt_membe ... &sz=2&rp=0
2) According to this, they've not "earned" nigh on 10m credits recently...
http://www.ubtstats.co.uk/ubt/UBT.php?c ... =PrimeGrid
In fact they've earned 117,247 recently.
3) The actual individuals totals don't seem to add up to the total team total...
Team total: 28,446,156 (as per PG website: http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2019 ... teams.html)
Individuals total: 38,375,156 (as per PG website: http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2019 ... users.html)
In fact, if you add up the 2nd-14th place member totals, (and exclude Homefarm) that comes to 28,398,032 which is much closer to the Team total.
So, I'm wondering what's happening and how/why this "result" can be valid.
regards
Tim
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He (Richard according to his website) wasn't listed on Johns when I tried to check just before the finish but he was listed on the PrimeGrid website so I assume he 'joined' between 11 and noon.UBT - Timbo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:17 pmHi Mark,
This is very strange...
According to ubtstats website:
1) Homefarm joined UBT on 26th Sept at 12:02 (or at least that's when the stats picked him/her up).
Nope, that's his total that's being counted as all gained todayUBT - Timbo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:17 pm 2) According to this, they've not "earned" nigh on 10m credits recently...
I think what's probably happened is that Homefarm have been crunching for a while but their credits haven't been linked to UBT and now that they are, PG has calculated their contribution as being the total now minus what it was on the 21st without allowing for the fact that they weren't in UBT to then.UBT - Timbo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:17 pm 3) The actual individuals totals don't seem to add up to the total team total...
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In fact, if you add up the 2nd-14th place member totals, (and exclude Homefarm) that comes to 28,398,032 which is much closer to the Team total.
So, I'm wondering what's happening and how/why this "result" can be valid.
As all the other team members have been in UBT for the complete duration then their totals match. If you allow for Homefarm generating 48k credits while they were a member of UBT then it's correct. The difference is exactly 12 tasks.
Individual stats are wrong but the actual team total has been worked out correctly from the returned workunits and not from summing the overall member scores.
I shall edit the final tables to show the correct results
Mark
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Corrected table due to PrimeGrid not realising Homefarm had only just joined UBT.
Damien does in fact come out as top UBT cruncher for the competition
Mark
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Pos. Name Credits Tasks
34 damienhealy 8,935,030 2,210
37 Woodles 8,288,150 2,050
51 ncoded.com 6,270,693 1,551
167 rimmer66 1,374,620 340
189 meddy2065 1,083,524 268
229 UBT - Timbo 715,611 177
244 Jeffers2112 618,579 153
276 Paul Griffin 420,472 104
281 Sean 396,214 98
315 UBT - Mikeejones 278,967 69
458 Homefarm 48,516 12
586 duncanr 8,086 2
=629 Jason 4,043 1
=629 LupusUK 4,043 1
Mark
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I think it's a genuine mistake by PrimeGrid rather than any malicious intent
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Just out of interest, what are everyone's totals for discoveries on PG?
Discoveries Primes (0/1), APs (72/164)
(copied and pasted from)
https://www.primegrid.com/home.php
Discoveries Primes (0/1), APs (72/164)
(copied and pasted from)
https://www.primegrid.com/home.php
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Mine is - Discoveries Primes (2/4), APs (67/188)
My first prime discovered entered the top 5,000 at position 1,334 and has since fallen out (it was early 2011!), the second one never even made it to begin with
One that I double checked entered the top 5,000 at 2,236 and is still at 2,579 now (early 2019) The others never entered.
I've never found or checked better than an AP22
(If you click on the users name to get to their profile then their primes and APs are accessible there)
Mark
My first prime discovered entered the top 5,000 at position 1,334 and has since fallen out (it was early 2011!), the second one never even made it to begin with
One that I double checked entered the top 5,000 at 2,236 and is still at 2,579 now (early 2019) The others never entered.
I've never found or checked better than an AP22
(If you click on the users name to get to their profile then their primes and APs are accessible there)
Mark
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Hi Chrischriscambridge wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:01 pm Just out of interest, what are everyone's totals for discoveries on PG?
Discoveries Primes (0/1), APs (72/164)
(copied and pasted from)
https://www.primegrid.com/home.php
I'm at:
Discoveries Primes (0/2), APs (19/24)
Highest AP found is an AP23:
92339116458110959+51132587*23#*n for n=0..22 on 2018-02-05 11:24:24 UTC
regards
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Mark, well you have done better than I who hasn't even *found a major Prime yet.
Although its probably because I was running the larger GNFR tasks; your less likely to find one, but if you do you know its going to be a large one and your going to get a good ranking.
Well done finding an AP23 Tim, Mark was just saying he has yet to find one.
Mark, well you have done better than I who hasn't even *found a major Prime yet.
Although its probably because I was running the larger GNFR tasks; your less likely to find one, but if you do you know its going to be a large one and your going to get a good ranking.
Well done finding an AP23 Tim, Mark was just saying he has yet to find one.
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Primes (2/4), APs (67/188) - Mark
Primes (0/2), APs (19/24) - Tim
Primes (0/1), APs (74/164)) - Chris
Seems I'm last, If you take the Primes as the major sort order
What specific PG task(s) did you run Mark to find those 2? EG GNFR19
Primes (0/2), APs (19/24) - Tim
Primes (0/1), APs (74/164)) - Chris
Seems I'm last, If you take the Primes as the major sort order
What specific PG task(s) did you run Mark to find those 2? EG GNFR19
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Hi Chris,
According to PrimeGrid they were both found using "Proth Prime Search" as were two that I was the checker for. The other two I checked were from "Generalized Fermat Prime Search" and "Sophie Germain Prime Search"
I'm guessing "Sophie Germain Prime Search" is Sophie Germain (LLR), "Generalized Fermat Prime Search" is one of the Genefer ones (but no idea which one) and "Proth Prime Search" is PPS (LLR) or maybe PPSE (LLR)?
I can't remember myself and that's all the information the site gives, sorry.
I still have 50 tasks pending so I haven't given up hope of an AP23 yet
Mark
According to PrimeGrid they were both found using "Proth Prime Search" as were two that I was the checker for. The other two I checked were from "Generalized Fermat Prime Search" and "Sophie Germain Prime Search"
I'm guessing "Sophie Germain Prime Search" is Sophie Germain (LLR), "Generalized Fermat Prime Search" is one of the Genefer ones (but no idea which one) and "Proth Prime Search" is PPS (LLR) or maybe PPSE (LLR)?
I can't remember myself and that's all the information the site gives, sorry.
I still have 50 tasks pending so I haven't given up hope of an AP23 yet
Mark
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Okay thanks..
Yeah PG is not very good at explaining exactly which Prime got found or rather which task type was ran to find it.
Yeah PG is not very good at explaining exactly which Prime got found or rather which task type was ran to find it.