ODLK

[Woodles]

mmmmm.....will have to see if a nice app_config file can be put together !!

Hi Tim,

I was going to have a try last night but I found that Boinc in its wisdom had filled my caches up with SRBase work and there were no ODLK tasks downloaded.

A few hours of lost crunching there but sorted out manually and I should have some baseline figures now.

Nothing else happening tonight that I'm aware of so I might try then

Mark

[Woodles]

Hi all

From FB website (which don't update that regularly):

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Pos.	Team		Points	2018 credits	Total credits	2017 total credits
8	BOINC.Italy	4	1,116,766	1,116,766	0
9	SETI.Germany	2	1,093,163	17,068,466	15,975,302
10	BOINC@Poland	1	931,376		3,902,266	2,970,889
11	UK BOINC Team	-	858,493		914,916		56,422

Italy are not letting up and continue their quest....

UBT now catching Poland...difference is now 72,883 (was 133,355) since yesterday.

regards
Tim

... And up to fourth place in the Boincstats competition

Next stop France (a preview of Sunday?)

Mark

[UBT - Timbo]

... And up to fourth place in the Boincstats competition

Next stop France (a preview of Sunday?)

Mark

Hi Mark

With 7 hrs and 30mins of this challenge to go, according to this:

https://boincstats.com/en/stats/challen ... /chat/1014

we're already in 3rd place !!

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Team Name		Rank	Credit	
BOINC.Italy		1	945,895
SETI.USA		2	291,674

UK BOINC Team		3	114,551

L'Alliance Francophone	4	113,993
Planet 3DNow!		5	61,944	
Colombia		6	61,174	
Gridcoin		7	33,266	
AMD Users		8	26,166
BOINC@Pfalz		9	17,026
The Knights Who Say Ni!	10	16,449

regards
Tim

[Woodles]

Not bad going, when I checked we were still 2k behind L'Alliance

Don't think we'll catch S.USA in seven hours though

Mark

[UBT - Chris Suddick]

Don't forget, once we've passed Poland then seti.germany are less than two days away and, as they are our closest rivals upward in the main table, then it effectively doubles in value getting past them.

Chris.

[Woodles]

Don't forget, once we've passed Poland then seti.germany are less than two days away and, as they are our closest rivals upward in the main table, then it effectively doubles in value getting past them.

Chris.

And if Italy are only doing it for the Boincstats competition (zero points before the competition) then they'll be stopping in about an hour and also within reach

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 8	BOINC.Italy	4	1,116,766
 9	SETI.Germany	2	1,093,163
10	BOINC@Poland	1	  931,376
11	UK BOINC Team	-	  858,493

Mark.

[UBT - Timbo]

Hi all

Less than an hour to go on the BOINCstats Challenge...

This shows our efforts, vs Italy.

https://boincstats.com/en/stats/177/tea ... d%5B%5D=42

Poland didn't take part in the above challenge, and hence don't appear.

On the main ODLK marathon though, the stats haven't updated since my posting earlier today (at around 8:30am).

So, I don't know where we stand

regards
Tim

[Woodles]

Hi Tim,

Using the figures from the ODLK site, the current FB marathon situation is:

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Pos.	Team		Points	2018 credits	Total credits	2017 total credits
 8	BOINC.Italy	4	1,176,854	 1,176,854		 0
 9	SETI.Germany	2	1,093,218	17,068,520	15,975,302
10	BOINC@Poland	1	  931,930	 3,902,819	 2,970,889
11	UK BOINC Team	-	  903,167	   959,589	    56,422

So UBT closing in on Poland

Mark

[UBT - Chris Suddick]

According to the FB site this mornimg we have now passed Poland and closing in fast on Germany.

Chris.

[Woodles]

Back into the point(s) at Formula Boinc (And we've broken the one million total credits mark)

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Pos.	Team		Points	2018 Credits	Total credits	2017 credits	Daily RAC
 7	Russia Team	6	1,502,559	 2,864,225	 1,361,665	  1,410
 8	BOINC.Italy	4	1,220,974	 1,220,974	         0	111,407
 9	SETI.Germany	2	1,093,935	17,069,237	15,975,302	  1,019
10	UK BOINC Team	1	  944,142	 1,000,564	    56,422	 61,430
11	BOINC@Poland	-	  932,260	 3,903,149	 2,970,889	    958

Next stop, Germany and ninth place

No let up from Italy yet, they may be going after Russia.

Mark

[UBT - Timbo]

Hi all

And another "by-product" of this challenge is that we've now overtaken TSBT and taken 2nd place in the UK stats on this project.

https://boincstats.com/en/stats/177/tea ... %20Kingdom

and looking at our Team stats on the project website, we now have a Total credit of 1,016,995...and OcUK are at 1,008,406...

So, we are now UK #1 team on ODLK !!

Well done to all taking part in this mini-crunch

regards
Tim

[Woodles]

So that's third place in the Boincstats competition AND points at Formula Boinc AND the UK number one spot?

Well done all

(Quite enjoyable these mini sprints)

Now I want one of those spiffy badges

Mark

[Woodles]

And we got a mention on the ODLK sprint board - https://boinc.progger.info/odlk/forum_t ... =1948#1948

Didn't realise that L'Alliance had fought back but we showed them in the end

Mark

[UBT - Timbo]

And we got a mention on the ODLK sprint board - https://boinc.progger.info/odlk/forum_t ... =1948#1948

Didn't realise that L'Alliance had fought back but we showed them in the end

Mark

Hi Mark

Yup - unlike the England footie team, we were strong until the end and finished off our nearest competitors...!!:

6am UTC 11th July:

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Team			Posn	Increasing Total Credits over last periods	
L'Alliance Francophone 	3 	112,756 111,904 111,281 108,749 102,639 98,449 81,180 
UK BOINC Team 		4 	105,014 101,501 97,706 90,334 75,980 55,802 26,372

7:48am UTC 11th July:

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Team			Posn	Increasing Total Credits over last periods	
L'Alliance Francophone 	3 	113,514 113,009 112,554 111,115 104,999 99,324 83,357 
UK BOINC Team 		4 	111,114 107,643 104,155 96,710 81,082 59,187 28,095 

16:49 UTC 11th July:

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Team			Posn	Increasing Total Credits over last periods	
UK BOINC Team 		3 	139,213 136,079 132,889 126,403 112,926 82,234 46,237 
L'Alliance Francophone 	4 	120,690 119,865 118,920 117,138 113,685 105,705 91,548

And YOU got a SPECIAL mention too - in the Top 10 of participants....AND from here:

https://boinc.progger.info/odlk/forum_t ... ostid=1948

Here's a look at how the UK BOINC Team is supported
19 Woodles 3,984 42,526 United Kingdom 9 Jul 2018, 20:44:27 UTC

The participant joined the competition on July 9th. Well done!

So, well done to Chris S for the suggestion and to Mark for his massive contribution.

regards
Tim

[Woodles]

Hi Tim,

And YOU got a SPECIAL mention too - in the Top 10 of participants....

I believe you were kept out of the top ten by only 1.5k credits?

So, well done to Chris S for the suggestion

Indeed, thanks Chris, might have to keep an eye on these challenges for future diversions

Mark

[UBT - Timbo]

Indeed, thanks Chris, might have to keep an eye on these challenges for future diversions

Mark

Hi Mark

In fact, UBT enters EVERY BOINCstats competition/challenge...

https://boincstats.com/en/stats/challenge/team/overview

So, ultimately, it's down to everyone to keep an eye on which project needs some help so we can either restore our previous position OR to overtake another team, if we had a bit of a "push" - whether this is on FB, or BOINCstats or wherever.

Of course it's a tricky one to keep track of all the different aspects of all the many competitions between BOINC teams...but if we all take a look at the various stats websites, then I'm sure that on the "in between" weeks between the various FB Sprints, then it gives us a bit of a chance to have a mini-crunch at various times.

It's just a question of what takes our fancy.

regards
Tim

[UBT - Timbo]

Hi Tim,

And YOU got a SPECIAL mention too - in the Top 10 of participants....

I believe you were kept out of the top ten by only 1.5k credits?

Mark

Hi Mark

Yup - hadn't realised...and I might have made it too, but one of my PCs went offline for a few hours so I could have made it...

https://boincstats.com/en/stats/challen ... 14/credits

Might have to console myself with a nice, refreshing pint at the weekend !!

regards
Tim

[Woodles]

Since Formula Boinc seems to have a problem updating their numbers:

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Pos.	Team		Points	Credits	Daily RAC
 7	Russia Team	6	1,506,539	  2,556
 8	BOINC.Italy	4	1,289,842	104,208
 9	SETI.Germany	2	1,094,746	    772
10	UK BOINC Team	1	1,052,505	 85,649
11	BOINC@Poland	-	  933,151	    883

Italy not letting up, UBT not quite matching them but far out crunching Germany, this time tomorrow ...

Mark

[UBT - Chris Suddick]

So, well done to Chris S for the suggestion and to Mark for his massive contribution.

regards
Tim

I think you might be overstating my contribution. All I did was mention that we'd lost our point in ODLK. I suppose I was hoping it might galvanise a little help but the actual response was quite staggering.

It is unfortunate that FB only updates once per day as does Free-DC which I tend to use. However, FDC does now report that the Italians have dropped down significantly to about 60K over the last day cf their normal 120K. To be honest, I doubt whether they have even noticed their effect in FB and have been entirely focused on the Boincstats challenge (which I was not even aware of until Tim mentioned it). Still, it galvanised us so it can't be all bad.

Chris.

[UBT - Timbo]

Hi all

FB website has updated its ODLK stats and they currently stand as follows:

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Pos.	Team			Points	2018 credits	Total credits	2017 total credits
1	SETI.USA		25	16,751,694	22,962,588	6,210,893
2	L'Alliance Francophone	18	11,649,855	15,940,847	4,290,992
3	Boinc@Taiwan		15	4,796,243	5,140,281	344,038
4	Czech National Team	12	4,215,405	4,832,534	617,128
5	Gridcoin		10	3,942,523	4,632,539	690,016
6	TeAm AnandTech		8	2,249,865	2,350,029	100,164
7	Russia Team		6	1,506,177	2,867,843	1,361,665
8	BOINC.Italy		4	1,286,598	1,286,598	0
9	SETI.Germany		2	1,094,631	17,069,933	15,975,302

10	UK BOINC Team		1	1,039,063	1,095,485	56,422

11	BOINC@Poland		-	932,999		3,903,889	2,970,889

According to the above, we are just about 55,000 credits shy of overtaking S.Germany.

However, going to the ODLK website itself, this shows that UBT has 1,136,817 credits (in total), less our start position of 56,422, so we should now have 1,080,395 for THIS year and so we are very close to overtaking S.Germany (and they are only averaging about 700 credits per DAY).

Hopefully, we can gain another point and relegate S.G accordingly

PS: We are extending our lead as UK #1 on ODLK - the two other UK teams are not staging a fightback...yet !!

regards
Tim

[UBT - Timbo]

Hi all

Current ODLK project website shows we have now amassed 1,165,518 credits (in total).

Deducting our end of 2017 total of 56,422 means we have earned 1,109,096 credits this year, which should now put us ahead of SETI.Germany on the FB Marathon for ODLK.

That gives us a net gain of 1 FB credit (and of course we had already gained back the point we lost when BOINC.Italy overtook us).

FB website will no doubt confirm this when their daily credits update takes place.

regards
Tim

[Woodles]

This morning's update shows we've passed Italy to gain another two points

... And Russia is only a couple of days away

Mark

[UBT - Timbo]

This morning's update shows we've passed Italy to gain another two points

... And Russia is only a couple of days away

Mark

Hi Mark

So it looks like Italy were keen to do well in the BS Challenge !!

Personally I'd have thought they would have gone on to maybe get at least in the Top 5...but OTOH, by easing off now, gives us a chance for a couple of days (and before the next Sprint) to extend our lead by a wee bit...

Russia are 200,000 ahead, so that's a possible scalp we could take !!

regards
Tim

[UBT - Chris Suddick]

I've filled my cache and turned off network access on the off chance that ODLK might be selected on Weds night. If not then nothing is lost.

Chris.

[UBT - Timbo]

I've filled my cache and turned off network access on the off chance that ODLK might be selected on Weds night. If not then nothing is lost.

Chris.

Hi Chris

Well out of the "runners and riders" for the next Sprint the following could be discounted:

Already been chosen in 2018:
#4) Amicable Numbers
#8) Asteroids@home (supports CPU/GPU)
#6) Enigma@home
#5) Moo! Wrapper (supports CPU/GPU)
#10) NFS@home
#7) ODLK1
#9) Rosetta@home
#1) Seti@home (supports CPU/GPU)
#2) VGTU@home
#3) World Community Grid

Possibles - but unlikely:
BURP - unlikely - not enough tasks available
DENIS@Home - unlikely - not enough tasks available
DrugDiscovery@home - unlikely - not enough tasks available
The dDM-Project - CLOSED DOWN
theSkyNet POGS - the PS1 Optical Galaxy Survey - CLOSED DOWN
Wanless Mersenne +2 - unlikely - Linux only
XANSONS for COD - unlikely - not enough tasks available

leaving the following:
Acoustics@home
Citizen Science Grid
Collatz Conjecture (supports CPU/GPU)
Cosmology@home
Einstein@home (supports CPU/GPU)
GPUGrid (supports CPU/GPU)
LHC@home 1.0 (supports CPU/GPU)
Milkyway@home (supports CPU/GPU)
NumberFields@home
ODLK
PrimeGrid (supports CPU/GPU)
RakeSearch
SRBase
TN-Grid
Universe@Home
Yafu
Yoyo@home

Only 3 out of the 10 chosen thus far have been CPU/GPU projects, so 7 have been CPU only...so I think another GPU project could be chosen...though if you check other posts Mark found some info that the project is chosen randomly...

I'm carrying on with ODLK (until the appointed time) just to build up a buffer with other ODLK teams.

If ODLK ISN'T chosen, be prepared to "abort" a lot of the tasks so you can fill your cache with the chosen projects tasks.

regards
Tim

[Woodles]

I've filled my cache and turned off network access on the off chance that ODLK might be selected on Weds night. If not then nothing is lost.

Chris.

Good thinking Chris, I've done the same

If nothing else, Russia are in for a big surprise

Mark

[UBT - Timbo]

Hi all

Some Tuesday 11am ODLK stats, from FB website :

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Pos.	Team			Points	2018 credits	Total credits	2017 total credits
1	SETI.USA		25	17,377,276	23,588,170	6,210,893
2	L'Alliance Francophone	18	11,814,332	16,105,324	4,290,992
3	Boinc@Taiwan		15	4,796,243	5,140,281	344,038
4	Czech National Team	12	4,378,521	4,995,650	617,128
5	Gridcoin		10	3,955,656	4,645,672	690,016
6	TeAm AnandTech		8	2,251,856	2,352,021	100,164

7	Russia Team		6	1,520,487	2,882,153	1,361,665
8	UK BOINC Team		4	1,383,438	1,439,861	56,422

9	BOINC.Italy		2	1,325,794	1,325,794	0
10	SETI.Germany		1	1,104,072	17,079,375	15,975,302

So, UBT is 137,049 credits behind Russia at present...

regards
Tim

[Woodles]

(snip)
So, UBT is 137,049 credits behind Russia at present...

Some other interesting figures

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15/07/2018
Team		FB Total	Per day
Russia Team	1,514,898	 3,152
UK BOINC Team	1,226,126	90,110
16/07/2018
Team		FB Total	Per day
Russia Team	1,519,278	 5,569
UK BOINC Team	1,322,293	96,953
17/07/2018
Team		FB Total	Per day
Russia Team	1,520,487	 4,380
UK BOINC Team	1,383,438	96,167

Mark

[bigsinky]

I've filled my cache and turned off network access on the off chance that ODLK might be selected on Weds night. If not then nothing is lost.

Chris.

Hi Chris

Well out of the "runners and riders" for the next Sprint the following could be discounted:

Already been chosen in 2018:
#4) Amicable Numbers
#8) Asteroids@home (supports CPU/GPU)
#6) Enigma@home
#5) Moo! Wrapper (supports CPU/GPU)
#10) NFS@home
#7) ODLK1
#9) Rosetta@home
#1) Seti@home (supports CPU/GPU)
#2) VGTU@home
#3) World Community Grid

Possibles - but unlikely:
BURP - unlikely - not enough tasks available
DENIS@Home - unlikely - not enough tasks available
DrugDiscovery@home - unlikely - not enough tasks available
The dDM-Project - CLOSED DOWN
theSkyNet POGS - the PS1 Optical Galaxy Survey - CLOSED DOWN
Wanless Mersenne +2 - unlikely - Linux only
XANSONS for COD - unlikely - not enough tasks available

leaving the following:
Acoustics@home
Citizen Science Grid
Collatz Conjecture (supports CPU/GPU)
Cosmology@home
Einstein@home (supports CPU/GPU)
GPUGrid (supports CPU/GPU)
LHC@home 1.0 (supports CPU/GPU)
Milkyway@home (supports CPU/GPU)
NumberFields@home
ODLK
PrimeGrid (supports CPU/GPU)
RakeSearch
SRBase
TN-Grid
Universe@Home
Yafu
Yoyo@home

Only 3 out of the 10 chosen thus far have been CPU/GPU projects, so 7 have been CPU only...so I think another GPU project could be chosen...though if you check other posts Mark found some info that the project is chosen randomly...

I'm carrying on with ODLK (until the appointed time) just to build up a buffer with other ODLK teams.

If ODLK ISN'T chosen, be prepared to "abort" a lot of the tasks so you can fill your cache with the chosen projects tasks.

regards
Tim

hopefully Primegrid. Been slogging away at that one for a while. That 1080ti goes through PPS (sieve) like a hot knife through butter. 3 minutes for 3371 credit. 1060GTX not that far behind either.

[Woodles]

hopefully Primegrid. Been slogging away at that one for a while. That 1080ti goes through PPS (sieve) like a hot knife through butter. 3 minutes for 3371 credit. 1060GTX not that far behind either.

Primegrid would be nice, a decent server, well established apps and always plenty of work.

Mark.

[bigsinky]

8hr35min for Genefer 21 credit 147K on a 1080ti. centuries for wingman to verify

6mins 35sec for PPS(sieve) credit 3371 yet it takes just over 8 hours via CPU. is this still the best app for maximizing the credit? both duncan and meddy2065 seem to think so. duncan has caught me again

would they still use 2 stage if it was picked for the sprint? just have to wait and see.

[Woodles]

I forgot they use wingmen

I haven't ran PrimeGrid for ages, it would be useful to have a set of times and credits for each application just in case they do pick it.

And yes, if it's picked then two stage verification will still be a part of it. The project owners don't get told they've been picked so they have no time to change the normal operation of the project.

Mark

[bigsinky]

I forgot they use wingmen

I haven't ran PrimeGrid for ages, it would be useful to have a set of times and credits for each application just in case they do pick it.

And yes, if it's picked then two stage verification will still be a part of it. The project owners don't get told they've been picked so they have no time to change the normal operation of the project.

Mark

So more or less count it out. Bummer!

[UBT - Timbo]

So more or less count it out. Bummer!

I wouldn't say that, as PG has lots of different tasks, some of which don't take long at all - you just have to be selective in which tasks you choose to allow BOINC Manager to process. (See your PrimeGrid account and take a look in the "PrimeGrid preferences" section.

So, if shorter tasks are completed, there's a far better chance that these completed tasks *will* be validated by the wingman, within the Sprint period.

regards
Tim

[Woodles]

It's on the list so it could be selected .... and it was last year

[UBT - Chris Suddick]

We just passed Russia and gained another two points. We're a long way off TAAT for the next point though. I think I might do the same as last week now and turn off network access until Wednesday's announcement.

Chris.

[Woodles]

You beat me to it

Yep, looks like TAAT are a few weeks away at least so no further progress in the near future.

Good idea with the bunkering again.

Mark

[UBT - Chris Suddick]

Just a quick update on ODLK...

We've created a comfortable buffer between ourselves and Russia, and closed the gap a little on TAAT. However, overclock.net are on a bit of a charge. They are currently 470k behind us and closing fast but it is a one-man charge and that man is currently on 830k so there is the chance he is just doing this to get to 1 million. If that is the case he might close down long before he bothers us. If not then he'll be past us in a fortnight.

Chris.

[UBT - Timbo]

Hi Chris

I've taken my foot off the pedal on ODLK for a bit and I'm putting my CPU efforts into Acoustics@home for a wee while.

But I'll happily switch back to ODLK, if we need to.

regards
Tim

[Woodles]

Hi Chris,

I was chasing L'Alliance in NFS but that's a few weeks off yet so just shout if you want a hand

Mark

[UBT - Chris Suddick]

As I said before I don't think there's any need to panic yet. I thought I might take a couple of days off and try the prime grid eclipse challenge and then I'll be straight back.

Chris.

[UBT - Chris Suddick]

As I suspected, the chappie from Overclock got his 1M and then went right off the boil. We're closing very slowly on TAAT who haven't scored a single point in over three weeks so I shall whittle away at the deficit for the foreseeable with the exception of any non-GPU sprints that I can help out on.

Chris.

[UBT - Timbo]

Hi Chris

Good news

I'm running a couple of different CPU tasks at present: mainly odlk and VGTU so I can hit my own "1 million" credit targets and waiting for the resumption of the FB Sprints (in less than a week now)...at which point I'll switch depending on which projects are chosen.

regards
Tim