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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:11 pm
by yoyo
Hi,
some clarification. On yoyo@home are 2 application running. You can choose in the preferences which you want. As default you get work for both. You see in the wu name which it is.

ogr_)
progress indicator every 12,5%. On of such progress step can take up to 7h. But the wu has checkpoints every 15min. So if you restart only the progress indicator restarts at the 12,5% level where it was before. The wu itself continues on the checkpoint. The estimated runtime of the wu is false and only exists because Boinc needs it. But the runtime is not predictable.

evo_)
Estimated runtime is an rough but good enough estimation. Based on this estimation also the progress indicator is shown and updated every 30s. But since it is an estimation the wu can finish already at 40% or even at 200%. This wu has NO checkpoints. If you restart your computer it starts from the very beginning. But you can switch to other projects and suspend Boinc if you have in your settings suspend and hold application in memory. In this case it continues.

yoyo

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:15 pm
by NaRyan
Thanks for the info :)

And poo I did loose all that work on the Evo_ workunits.
Oh well they got done in the end.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:55 pm
by UBT - Mikee
Thanks for that Yoyo.

As the Evo WUs don't have checkpoints Yoyo grants an extra 30% for each finished WU to make up for any fails you may have. No fails = BONUS! :D

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:29 am
by UBT - mickyb69
I tryed an evo on 1 chip ..11 hours 265 creds  :lol:
hmmmmm p4 D 3gig = 1000+ credits a day ..now thats nice

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:27 pm
by NaRyan
You must also get the extra on the OGR_ too.
Claimed 214.23, Granted 301.24.
Mind you that did take 09:46:23 on a AMD X2 6000+ (running @3212MHz)

Well working poop out, TSP would have to do 19 BF workunits to equal that 301 (or 304 credits).
And this system would take just under 6 hours to do that (worked out as 1 core running the app)

So although TSP gives 16 credits per BF_ workunit, on a X64 OS it crunches them heck of a fast (this system does them in about 17min 30 sec or less)

So in the grand scheme of "Total Boinc credits, for the team" TSP pays out quite a lot if your a x64 user.

However I'll stick with Yoyo, since we need dem credits :)
Anyone got an idea what Eric is crunching on since TSP is offline?
As It looks like he has some nice "toys" that would help on Yoyo ;)

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:10 pm
by UBT - Mikee
Yoyo always has given good credits, a lot more than is claimed. Probably due to the fact that they used to crash out a lot in the early days and that they were VERRRRYYYY long and unpredictable. Seem a lot more stable now.

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:53 pm
by NaRyan
Not bothered about the time.
after all it's not like i actually do anything else but Crunch on ma pootas ;)
Keep getting told there is an off button, but I think those peeps are telling fibs!

(and grr Firefox spell checker is a bit naff, nice to know I spelt something wrong (he he it don't like the word Firefox), but err a suggestion of the correct word would be nice....

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:11 pm
by UBT - Mikee
NaRyan wrote:
(and grr Firefox spell checker is a bit naff, nice to know I spelt something wrong (he he it don't like the word Firefox), but err a suggestion of the correct word would be nice....
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:3

Works for me all the time. You sure you got the right extension?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:21 pm
by NaRyan
Yeah picked English British from the list when I 1st installed it.
Guess I done something wrong?
It is my 1st time using the prog, More of an IE/Opera peep :S

*doh now I see wot you do, you have to right click on the word *ahem*
never mind me, nowt to see here, move along now..... noob :P

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:54 pm
by melter65
yoyo wrote:Hi,
some clarification. On yoyo@home are 2 application running. You can choose in the preferences which you want. As default you get work for both. You see in the wu name which it is.

ogr_)
progress indicator every 12,5%. On of such progress step can take up to 7h. But the wu has checkpoints every 15min. So if you restart only the progress indicator restarts at the 12,5% level where it was before. The wu itself continues on the checkpoint. The estimated runtime of the wu is false and only exists because Boinc needs it. But the runtime is not predictable.

evo_)
Estimated runtime is an rough but good enough estimation. Based on this estimation also the progress indicator is shown and updated every 30s. But since it is an estimation the wu can finish already at 40% or even at 200%. This wu has NO checkpoints. If you restart your computer it starts from the very beginning. But you can switch to other projects and suspend Boinc if you have in your settings suspend and hold application in memory. In this case it continues.

yoyo
Thanks for the 'heads-up' on this, yoyo! I've altered my preferences the exclude 'evo' WU's. The reason for this is that I'm a single core cruncher and need to turn both BOINC and my computer off sometimes :D

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:43 am
by UBT - Mikee
Anyone else getting this?

01/02/2008 07:38:13|yoyo@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP file not found

Their message board seems to have disappeared and replaced with the Rechenkraft forum instead.

"Betatest, be not surprised." Oh! OK.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:12 am
by Rockinfroggi
I was running yoyo for about a week but the last 3 days or so have been unable to get anything from them.


Gary

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:24 pm
by UBT - Mikee
Going for another point in the 'who broke it table'

Yoyo's broke!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:40 pm
by melter65
Don't frickin' look at me!! :evil:  :evil:

It's either you or the frog, as you both reported it!  :lol:  :lol:

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:46 pm
by UBT - Mikee
Ah - as soon as Yoyo shows up in the forum it works again!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:59 pm
by yoyo
:shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:07 pm
by melter65
Good work, yoyo! :wink:  :lol:

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:38 pm
by UBT-mark3346
Ram Raider wrote:If you're running McAfee Virus Scan, beware
VirusScan Enterprise: The file C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\yoyo8.homedns.org_88_yoyo\crunch_1.01_windows_intelx86.exe is infected with Proxy-DistNet Trojan. The file was successfully deleted.(running VirusScan Enter 8.0 OAS)
This means the download fails as the file gets deleted immediately.

Anybody else seen this problem?

I use Avast on my other PCs and that's OK.
For some reason Norton has now decided YoYo is a backdoor trojan and deleted it from 2 of my pc's  :(  I assume it will do the rest of them when I allow a restart

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:51 pm
by UBT - The Prof....
Think I had this problem once before, though it was a long while ago. Now use AVG, not had any problems with any project so far, though not running this one at the moment.

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:20 am
by UBT-mark3346
UBT - The Prof.... wrote:Think I had this problem once before, though it was a long while ago. Now use AVG, not had any problems with any project so far, though not running this one at the moment.
Strange thing is I wasn't running it either it just started throwing up security alerts.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:00 am
by UBT - bobuk
Ram Raider wrote:If you're running McAfee Virus Scan, beware
VirusScan Enterprise: The file C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\yoyo8.homedns.org_88_yoyo\crunch_1.01_windows_intelx86.exe is infected with Proxy-DistNet Trojan. The file was successfully deleted.(running VirusScan Enter 8.0 OAS)
This means the download fails as the file gets deleted immediately.

Anybody else seen this problem?

I use Avast on my other PCs and that's OK.
this problem as still not been sorted :(
just tried to to get work from yoyo and the wu's jost get chucked out as 'trojan' by mcafee....
oh well lets hope they get things sorted soon....





b.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:37 am
by Ben
The distributed.net client and runs OGR work units. This project searches for the shortest Optimal Golumb Ruler of the length 25. Some virus scanner false detect the client as trojan (list of known false detections).
That is what is said on the YoYo@Home homepage.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:03 am
by Sir Cracked of the Mind
Well it goes like this.

"Am I willing to reduce my computer security in order to run Yoyo"

answer NO!

Their loss not mine.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:17 am
by UBT - bobuk
Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote:Well it goes like this.

"am I willing to reduce my computer security in order to run Yoyo"

answer NO!

Their loss not mine.
that was just about what i was thinking :(

yoyo makes a visit to this forum quite a few times, lets see if he has anything to say on this matter....



b. :D

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:38 pm
by yoyo
Can't say anything new to this. I include the original distributed.net binary without any change. Distributed.net guys knows that some virus scanner detects there client as trojan and contacted already these companies. Some of them removed dnet from the data file, some not.
I fully respect if you do not disable your virus scanner for the boinc project and slot folder and if you will not change your scanner.
yoyo

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:57 am
by melter65
Thanks for answering our questions, yoyo! :(

As I don't use McAfeecrappy nonsecurity this doesn't affect me! 8)  :lol:  :lol:

So I will carry on crunching yoyo wu's without a worry!! :wink:  :D  :D

Roll on 'The OGR Challenge', I'll be running 100% yoyo on that!! :twisted:  :twisted:

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:46 am
by Sir Cracked of the Mind
You really know how to piss people off don't you Melter65, well screw you too jerk wad!

I'm off!

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:44 pm
by melter65
Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote:You really know how to piss people off don't you Melter65, well screw you too jerk wad!

I'm off!
Hang on a moment, Sir Cracked!

My answer was meant to be slightly tongue in cheek, everybody (including me!) has had trouble with McAffee, Norton, Comodo and various other security suites/firewalls. I certainly wouldn't expect you to open your 'puter up to possible attack just to crunch a specific project!