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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:45 pm
by RodEllery
Ths is nw loking good. Validator finally gave me 2.2k  Credits today. Hope this means rapid credits in future.....

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:08 am
by Timby
Mmm any of you chaps running this project on Linux 64bit?
I only ask as I joined the project tonight to boost our output a bit and the first WU fell over straight away, I have set it to no new work for now untill I can find out why?
If Yoyo is looking the WU ID is 26812
My ID is 1670  looks like there are 5 client errors at the moment?

Mark

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:09 am
by UBT - Mikee
Just had a look around. As far as I can see none of the members are using Linux. Looking further, there are a few Linux users that are working this guy from Rechenkraft.net for instance. Whilst looking I did see that a few Linux users had errors.

Doesn't help you much other than knowing that other people have got it to work. May depend on which distro you have I suppose.

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:29 am
by Timby
Thanks Mikee for your input, I did see that there were a few Linux users but as you quite rightly say not sure which distro they are running?
I did try one more WU which failed as soon as it ran so I will sit tight for the moment and see if Yoyo can shed any light on the problem if he reads this post?
In the meantime lets crack on with a few more ABC's

Mark

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:28 pm
by yoyo
Timby wrote:Mmm any of you chaps running this project on Linux 64bit?
I only ask as I joined the project tonight to boost our output a bit and the first WU fell over straight away, I have set it to no new work for now untill I can find out why?
If Yoyo is looking the WU ID is 26812
My ID is 1670  looks like there are 5 client errors at the moment?

Mark
Hi Timby,
I see that your error for wu 26812 is a different than the 4 other errors. You have an execve error. It looks like the wrapper can not start the cruncher.

First of all reset the project and try again.

If this doesn't help, download one wu and check if cruncher* and wrapper* have execute rights in projects/www.rechenkraft.net_yoyo. Than try the following:
- create a new directory
- cp wrapper* cruncher* new_dir/
- cp job* new_dir/job.xml
- cp ogr_*_0 new_dir/in.ogf
- start in new_dir the wrapper

Send me all std* files.

yoyo

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:11 pm
by UBT - Mikee
Well done everyone who participated in our aim to regain UK #1 position.

A great team effort by all concerned.

How long will we keep it? That depends on how much of a buffer we want, who wants to carry on or join and, of course, how much Steve at BUK has 'in the bank'!

Anyone who wants to get back to their normal projects can do so with no fear of retribution or telling off!

If anyone missed the fun you can still join us! It's an active project with instant, fairly generous, credits. WUs running around 1 to 4 hours on a newish spec PC.

Once again, my personal thanks to everyone.

No 'Hobnobs' I'm afraid.

Carrots anyone?

Mike

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:25 pm
by UBT - Halifax-lad
Just got a yoyo wu at the moment, look like will take around 8hrs on my PC

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:10 pm
by UBT - Mikee
Ah - the wanderer returns! Welcome back.

Depends which type you've got.

OGRs go up in 12.5% steps. So once it's got to 12.5% multiply the time taken by 8 to get a rough estimate.

EVOs are shorter and the percentage and timer are fairly accurate.

Tough project to get restarted on, thought you would have gone for something easier!

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:22 pm
by UBT - Halifax-lad
UBT - Mikee wrote:Tough project to get restarted on, thought you would have gone for something easier!
Since when have I ever done anything the easy way :lol:  Got some DepSpid working at moment too

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:48 am
by NaRyan
Running YoYo for a few days while Bob (TSP server), moves home.
I'm sure sure a few extra credits will help a ikkle bit...

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:22 am
by UBT - Mikee
Thought you gave up 'cos Eric was beating you!

We're over 500,000 behind so it certainly will help!

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:01 pm
by Sir Cracked of the Mind
I shall leave mine running, it's not a lot yet but it alll helps

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:02 pm
by UBT - Halifax-lad
1st result in and validated got 310 credits doesnt seem all too bad

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:05 pm
by UBT - Mikee
UBT - Halifax--lad wrote:1st result in and validated got 310 credits doesnt seem all too bad
Good one!

Them Depspids take their time don't they!

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:48 am
by NaRyan
Yoyo starts back at 0% if you have to restart the poota?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:15 am
by UBT - Mikee
NaRyan wrote:Yoyo starts back at 0% if you have to restart the poota?
It shows 0% but actually restarts from the last checkpoint.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:00 am
by UBT - mickyb69
Nooooooooooo so when you get to 80% then restart at 0 your still at 80
oh pooooooooooooop . :shock:

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:57 pm
by UBT - Mikee
UBT - mickyb69 wrote:Nooooooooooo so when you get to 80% then restart at 0 your still at 80
oh pooooooooooooop . :shock:
What's wrong with that? You've done 80%, you've just got 20% to go but it will read 0% up 100% of that 20... sort of thing

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:04 pm
by NaRyan
Mine go way past 100%  :?
Also are the OGR workunits the ones that only show status every 12.5%?
The one on my AMD X2 4200+ is still at 0% after 90 minutes.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:49 pm
by UBT - mickyb69
UBT - Mikee wrote:
UBT - mickyb69 wrote:Nooooooooooo so when you get to 80% then restart at 0 your still at 80
oh pooooooooooooop . :shock:
What's wrong with that? You've done 80%, you've just got 20% to go but it will read 0% up 100% of that 20... sort of thing
cuss i tryed a few and they kept going back to 0% so i ditched them  :cry:  :cry: all them wasted credits  :D

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:11 pm
by yoyo
Hi,
some clarification. On yoyo@home are 2 application running. You can choose in the preferences which you want. As default you get work for both. You see in the wu name which it is.

ogr_)
progress indicator every 12,5%. On of such progress step can take up to 7h. But the wu has checkpoints every 15min. So if you restart only the progress indicator restarts at the 12,5% level where it was before. The wu itself continues on the checkpoint. The estimated runtime of the wu is false and only exists because Boinc needs it. But the runtime is not predictable.

evo_)
Estimated runtime is an rough but good enough estimation. Based on this estimation also the progress indicator is shown and updated every 30s. But since it is an estimation the wu can finish already at 40% or even at 200%. This wu has NO checkpoints. If you restart your computer it starts from the very beginning. But you can switch to other projects and suspend Boinc if you have in your settings suspend and hold application in memory. In this case it continues.

yoyo

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:15 pm
by NaRyan
Thanks for the info :)

And poo I did loose all that work on the Evo_ workunits.
Oh well they got done in the end.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:55 pm
by UBT - Mikee
Thanks for that Yoyo.

As the Evo WUs don't have checkpoints Yoyo grants an extra 30% for each finished WU to make up for any fails you may have. No fails = BONUS! :D

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:29 am
by UBT - mickyb69
I tryed an evo on 1 chip ..11 hours 265 creds  :lol:
hmmmmm p4 D 3gig = 1000+ credits a day ..now thats nice

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:27 pm
by NaRyan
You must also get the extra on the OGR_ too.
Claimed 214.23, Granted 301.24.
Mind you that did take 09:46:23 on a AMD X2 6000+ (running @3212MHz)

Well working poop out, TSP would have to do 19 BF workunits to equal that 301 (or 304 credits).
And this system would take just under 6 hours to do that (worked out as 1 core running the app)

So although TSP gives 16 credits per BF_ workunit, on a X64 OS it crunches them heck of a fast (this system does them in about 17min 30 sec or less)

So in the grand scheme of "Total Boinc credits, for the team" TSP pays out quite a lot if your a x64 user.

However I'll stick with Yoyo, since we need dem credits :)
Anyone got an idea what Eric is crunching on since TSP is offline?
As It looks like he has some nice "toys" that would help on Yoyo ;)

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:10 pm
by UBT - Mikee
Yoyo always has given good credits, a lot more than is claimed. Probably due to the fact that they used to crash out a lot in the early days and that they were VERRRRYYYY long and unpredictable. Seem a lot more stable now.

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:53 pm
by NaRyan
Not bothered about the time.
after all it's not like i actually do anything else but Crunch on ma pootas ;)
Keep getting told there is an off button, but I think those peeps are telling fibs!

(and grr Firefox spell checker is a bit naff, nice to know I spelt something wrong (he he it don't like the word Firefox), but err a suggestion of the correct word would be nice....

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:11 pm
by UBT - Mikee
NaRyan wrote:
(and grr Firefox spell checker is a bit naff, nice to know I spelt something wrong (he he it don't like the word Firefox), but err a suggestion of the correct word would be nice....
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:3

Works for me all the time. You sure you got the right extension?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:21 pm
by NaRyan
Yeah picked English British from the list when I 1st installed it.
Guess I done something wrong?
It is my 1st time using the prog, More of an IE/Opera peep :S

*doh now I see wot you do, you have to right click on the word *ahem*
never mind me, nowt to see here, move along now..... noob :P

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:54 pm
by melter65
yoyo wrote:Hi,
some clarification. On yoyo@home are 2 application running. You can choose in the preferences which you want. As default you get work for both. You see in the wu name which it is.

ogr_)
progress indicator every 12,5%. On of such progress step can take up to 7h. But the wu has checkpoints every 15min. So if you restart only the progress indicator restarts at the 12,5% level where it was before. The wu itself continues on the checkpoint. The estimated runtime of the wu is false and only exists because Boinc needs it. But the runtime is not predictable.

evo_)
Estimated runtime is an rough but good enough estimation. Based on this estimation also the progress indicator is shown and updated every 30s. But since it is an estimation the wu can finish already at 40% or even at 200%. This wu has NO checkpoints. If you restart your computer it starts from the very beginning. But you can switch to other projects and suspend Boinc if you have in your settings suspend and hold application in memory. In this case it continues.

yoyo
Thanks for the 'heads-up' on this, yoyo! I've altered my preferences the exclude 'evo' WU's. The reason for this is that I'm a single core cruncher and need to turn both BOINC and my computer off sometimes :D

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:43 am
by UBT - Mikee
Anyone else getting this?

01/02/2008 07:38:13|yoyo@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP file not found

Their message board seems to have disappeared and replaced with the Rechenkraft forum instead.

"Betatest, be not surprised." Oh! OK.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:12 am
by Rockinfroggi
I was running yoyo for about a week but the last 3 days or so have been unable to get anything from them.


Gary

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:24 pm
by UBT - Mikee
Going for another point in the 'who broke it table'

Yoyo's broke!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:40 pm
by melter65
Don't frickin' look at me!! :evil:  :evil:

It's either you or the frog, as you both reported it!  :lol:  :lol:

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:46 pm
by UBT - Mikee
Ah - as soon as Yoyo shows up in the forum it works again!

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:59 pm
by yoyo
:shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:07 pm
by melter65
Good work, yoyo! :wink:  :lol:

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:38 pm
by UBT-mark3346
Ram Raider wrote:If you're running McAfee Virus Scan, beware
VirusScan Enterprise: The file C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\yoyo8.homedns.org_88_yoyo\crunch_1.01_windows_intelx86.exe is infected with Proxy-DistNet Trojan. The file was successfully deleted.(running VirusScan Enter 8.0 OAS)
This means the download fails as the file gets deleted immediately.

Anybody else seen this problem?

I use Avast on my other PCs and that's OK.
For some reason Norton has now decided YoYo is a backdoor trojan and deleted it from 2 of my pc's  :(  I assume it will do the rest of them when I allow a restart

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:51 pm
by UBT - The Prof....
Think I had this problem once before, though it was a long while ago. Now use AVG, not had any problems with any project so far, though not running this one at the moment.

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:20 am
by UBT-mark3346
UBT - The Prof.... wrote:Think I had this problem once before, though it was a long while ago. Now use AVG, not had any problems with any project so far, though not running this one at the moment.
Strange thing is I wasn't running it either it just started throwing up security alerts.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:00 am
by UBT - bobuk
Ram Raider wrote:If you're running McAfee Virus Scan, beware
VirusScan Enterprise: The file C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\yoyo8.homedns.org_88_yoyo\crunch_1.01_windows_intelx86.exe is infected with Proxy-DistNet Trojan. The file was successfully deleted.(running VirusScan Enter 8.0 OAS)
This means the download fails as the file gets deleted immediately.

Anybody else seen this problem?

I use Avast on my other PCs and that's OK.
this problem as still not been sorted :(
just tried to to get work from yoyo and the wu's jost get chucked out as 'trojan' by mcafee....
oh well lets hope they get things sorted soon....





b.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:37 am
by Ben
The distributed.net client and runs OGR work units. This project searches for the shortest Optimal Golumb Ruler of the length 25. Some virus scanner false detect the client as trojan (list of known false detections).
That is what is said on the YoYo@Home homepage.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:03 am
by Sir Cracked of the Mind
Well it goes like this.

"Am I willing to reduce my computer security in order to run Yoyo"

answer NO!

Their loss not mine.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:17 am
by UBT - bobuk
Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote:Well it goes like this.

"am I willing to reduce my computer security in order to run Yoyo"

answer NO!

Their loss not mine.
that was just about what i was thinking :(

yoyo makes a visit to this forum quite a few times, lets see if he has anything to say on this matter....



b. :D

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:38 pm
by yoyo
Can't say anything new to this. I include the original distributed.net binary without any change. Distributed.net guys knows that some virus scanner detects there client as trojan and contacted already these companies. Some of them removed dnet from the data file, some not.
I fully respect if you do not disable your virus scanner for the boinc project and slot folder and if you will not change your scanner.
yoyo

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:57 am
by melter65
Thanks for answering our questions, yoyo! :(

As I don't use McAfeecrappy nonsecurity this doesn't affect me! 8)  :lol:  :lol:

So I will carry on crunching yoyo wu's without a worry!! :wink:  :D  :D

Roll on 'The OGR Challenge', I'll be running 100% yoyo on that!! :twisted:  :twisted:

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:46 am
by Sir Cracked of the Mind
You really know how to piss people off don't you Melter65, well screw you too jerk wad!

I'm off!

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:44 pm
by melter65
Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote:You really know how to piss people off don't you Melter65, well screw you too jerk wad!

I'm off!
Hang on a moment, Sir Cracked!

My answer was meant to be slightly tongue in cheek, everybody (including me!) has had trouble with McAffee, Norton, Comodo and various other security suites/firewalls. I certainly wouldn't expect you to open your 'puter up to possible attack just to crunch a specific project!