Yoyo@home

The section for those minor projects that are around, such as Yafu, Yoyo@home and also including those that are "non-intensive", such as WUProp, which can be run in the background.
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Post by RodEllery »

Ths is nw loking good. Validator finally gave me 2.2k  Credits today. Hope this means rapid credits in future.....
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Post by Timby »

Mmm any of you chaps running this project on Linux 64bit?
I only ask as I joined the project tonight to boost our output a bit and the first WU fell over straight away, I have set it to no new work for now untill I can find out why?
If Yoyo is looking the WU ID is 26812
My ID is 1670  looks like there are 5 client errors at the moment?

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Post by UBT - Mikee »

Just had a look around. As far as I can see none of the members are using Linux. Looking further, there are a few Linux users that are working this guy from Rechenkraft.net for instance. Whilst looking I did see that a few Linux users had errors.

Doesn't help you much other than knowing that other people have got it to work. May depend on which distro you have I suppose.
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Post by Timby »

Thanks Mikee for your input, I did see that there were a few Linux users but as you quite rightly say not sure which distro they are running?
I did try one more WU which failed as soon as it ran so I will sit tight for the moment and see if Yoyo can shed any light on the problem if he reads this post?
In the meantime lets crack on with a few more ABC's

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Post by yoyo »

Timby wrote:Mmm any of you chaps running this project on Linux 64bit?
I only ask as I joined the project tonight to boost our output a bit and the first WU fell over straight away, I have set it to no new work for now untill I can find out why?
If Yoyo is looking the WU ID is 26812
My ID is 1670  looks like there are 5 client errors at the moment?

Mark
Hi Timby,
I see that your error for wu 26812 is a different than the 4 other errors. You have an execve error. It looks like the wrapper can not start the cruncher.

First of all reset the project and try again.

If this doesn't help, download one wu and check if cruncher* and wrapper* have execute rights in projects/www.rechenkraft.net_yoyo. Than try the following:
- create a new directory
- cp wrapper* cruncher* new_dir/
- cp job* new_dir/job.xml
- cp ogr_*_0 new_dir/in.ogf
- start in new_dir the wrapper

Send me all std* files.

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Post by UBT - Mikee »

Well done everyone who participated in our aim to regain UK #1 position.

A great team effort by all concerned.

How long will we keep it? That depends on how much of a buffer we want, who wants to carry on or join and, of course, how much Steve at BUK has 'in the bank'!

Anyone who wants to get back to their normal projects can do so with no fear of retribution or telling off!

If anyone missed the fun you can still join us! It's an active project with instant, fairly generous, credits. WUs running around 1 to 4 hours on a newish spec PC.

Once again, my personal thanks to everyone.

No 'Hobnobs' I'm afraid.

Carrots anyone?

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Post by UBT - Halifax-lad »

Just got a yoyo wu at the moment, look like will take around 8hrs on my PC
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Post by UBT - Mikee »

Ah - the wanderer returns! Welcome back.

Depends which type you've got.

OGRs go up in 12.5% steps. So once it's got to 12.5% multiply the time taken by 8 to get a rough estimate.

EVOs are shorter and the percentage and timer are fairly accurate.

Tough project to get restarted on, thought you would have gone for something easier!
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Post by UBT - Halifax-lad »

UBT - Mikee wrote:Tough project to get restarted on, thought you would have gone for something easier!
Since when have I ever done anything the easy way :lol:  Got some DepSpid working at moment too
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Post by NaRyan »

Running YoYo for a few days while Bob (TSP server), moves home.
I'm sure sure a few extra credits will help a ikkle bit...
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Post by UBT - Mikee »

Thought you gave up 'cos Eric was beating you!

We're over 500,000 behind so it certainly will help!
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Post by Sir Cracked of the Mind »

I shall leave mine running, it's not a lot yet but it alll helps
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Post by UBT - Halifax-lad »

1st result in and validated got 310 credits doesnt seem all too bad
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UBT - Halifax--lad wrote:1st result in and validated got 310 credits doesnt seem all too bad
Good one!

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Post by NaRyan »

Yoyo starts back at 0% if you have to restart the poota?
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Post by UBT - Mikee »

NaRyan wrote:Yoyo starts back at 0% if you have to restart the poota?
It shows 0% but actually restarts from the last checkpoint.
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Post by UBT - mickyb69 »

Nooooooooooo so when you get to 80% then restart at 0 your still at 80
oh pooooooooooooop . :shock:
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UBT - mickyb69 wrote:Nooooooooooo so when you get to 80% then restart at 0 your still at 80
oh pooooooooooooop . :shock:
What's wrong with that? You've done 80%, you've just got 20% to go but it will read 0% up 100% of that 20... sort of thing
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Post by NaRyan »

Mine go way past 100%  :?
Also are the OGR workunits the ones that only show status every 12.5%?
The one on my AMD X2 4200+ is still at 0% after 90 minutes.
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Post by UBT - mickyb69 »

UBT - Mikee wrote:
UBT - mickyb69 wrote:Nooooooooooo so when you get to 80% then restart at 0 your still at 80
oh pooooooooooooop . :shock:
What's wrong with that? You've done 80%, you've just got 20% to go but it will read 0% up 100% of that 20... sort of thing
cuss i tryed a few and they kept going back to 0% so i ditched them  :cry:  :cry: all them wasted credits  :D
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Post by yoyo »

Hi,
some clarification. On yoyo@home are 2 application running. You can choose in the preferences which you want. As default you get work for both. You see in the wu name which it is.

ogr_)
progress indicator every 12,5%. On of such progress step can take up to 7h. But the wu has checkpoints every 15min. So if you restart only the progress indicator restarts at the 12,5% level where it was before. The wu itself continues on the checkpoint. The estimated runtime of the wu is false and only exists because Boinc needs it. But the runtime is not predictable.

evo_)
Estimated runtime is an rough but good enough estimation. Based on this estimation also the progress indicator is shown and updated every 30s. But since it is an estimation the wu can finish already at 40% or even at 200%. This wu has NO checkpoints. If you restart your computer it starts from the very beginning. But you can switch to other projects and suspend Boinc if you have in your settings suspend and hold application in memory. In this case it continues.

yoyo
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Post by NaRyan »

Thanks for the info :)

And poo I did loose all that work on the Evo_ workunits.
Oh well they got done in the end.
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Post by UBT - Mikee »

Thanks for that Yoyo.

As the Evo WUs don't have checkpoints Yoyo grants an extra 30% for each finished WU to make up for any fails you may have. No fails = BONUS! :D
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Post by UBT - mickyb69 »

I tryed an evo on 1 chip ..11 hours 265 creds  :lol:
hmmmmm p4 D 3gig = 1000+ credits a day ..now thats nice
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Post by NaRyan »

You must also get the extra on the OGR_ too.
Claimed 214.23, Granted 301.24.
Mind you that did take 09:46:23 on a AMD X2 6000+ (running @3212MHz)

Well working poop out, TSP would have to do 19 BF workunits to equal that 301 (or 304 credits).
And this system would take just under 6 hours to do that (worked out as 1 core running the app)

So although TSP gives 16 credits per BF_ workunit, on a X64 OS it crunches them heck of a fast (this system does them in about 17min 30 sec or less)

So in the grand scheme of "Total Boinc credits, for the team" TSP pays out quite a lot if your a x64 user.

However I'll stick with Yoyo, since we need dem credits :)
Anyone got an idea what Eric is crunching on since TSP is offline?
As It looks like he has some nice "toys" that would help on Yoyo ;)
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Post by UBT - Mikee »

Yoyo always has given good credits, a lot more than is claimed. Probably due to the fact that they used to crash out a lot in the early days and that they were VERRRRYYYY long and unpredictable. Seem a lot more stable now.
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Post by NaRyan »

Not bothered about the time.
after all it's not like i actually do anything else but Crunch on ma pootas ;)
Keep getting told there is an off button, but I think those peeps are telling fibs!

(and grr Firefox spell checker is a bit naff, nice to know I spelt something wrong (he he it don't like the word Firefox), but err a suggestion of the correct word would be nice....
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Post by UBT - Mikee »

NaRyan wrote:
(and grr Firefox spell checker is a bit naff, nice to know I spelt something wrong (he he it don't like the word Firefox), but err a suggestion of the correct word would be nice....
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:3

Works for me all the time. You sure you got the right extension?
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Yeah picked English British from the list when I 1st installed it.
Guess I done something wrong?
It is my 1st time using the prog, More of an IE/Opera peep :S

*doh now I see wot you do, you have to right click on the word *ahem*
never mind me, nowt to see here, move along now..... noob :P
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yoyo wrote:Hi,
some clarification. On yoyo@home are 2 application running. You can choose in the preferences which you want. As default you get work for both. You see in the wu name which it is.

ogr_)
progress indicator every 12,5%. On of such progress step can take up to 7h. But the wu has checkpoints every 15min. So if you restart only the progress indicator restarts at the 12,5% level where it was before. The wu itself continues on the checkpoint. The estimated runtime of the wu is false and only exists because Boinc needs it. But the runtime is not predictable.

evo_)
Estimated runtime is an rough but good enough estimation. Based on this estimation also the progress indicator is shown and updated every 30s. But since it is an estimation the wu can finish already at 40% or even at 200%. This wu has NO checkpoints. If you restart your computer it starts from the very beginning. But you can switch to other projects and suspend Boinc if you have in your settings suspend and hold application in memory. In this case it continues.

yoyo
Thanks for the 'heads-up' on this, yoyo! I've altered my preferences the exclude 'evo' WU's. The reason for this is that I'm a single core cruncher and need to turn both BOINC and my computer off sometimes :D
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Post by UBT - Mikee »

Anyone else getting this?

01/02/2008 07:38:13|yoyo@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP file not found

Their message board seems to have disappeared and replaced with the Rechenkraft forum instead.

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Post by Rockinfroggi »

I was running yoyo for about a week but the last 3 days or so have been unable to get anything from them.


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Post by UBT - Mikee »

Going for another point in the 'who broke it table'

Yoyo's broke!
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Don't frickin' look at me!! :evil:  :evil:

It's either you or the frog, as you both reported it!  :lol:  :lol:
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Ah - as soon as Yoyo shows up in the forum it works again!
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Post by yoyo »

:shock:  :shock:  :shock:
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Good work, yoyo! :wink:  :lol:
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Ram Raider wrote:If you're running McAfee Virus Scan, beware
VirusScan Enterprise: The file C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\yoyo8.homedns.org_88_yoyo\crunch_1.01_windows_intelx86.exe is infected with Proxy-DistNet Trojan. The file was successfully deleted.(running VirusScan Enter 8.0 OAS)
This means the download fails as the file gets deleted immediately.

Anybody else seen this problem?

I use Avast on my other PCs and that's OK.
For some reason Norton has now decided YoYo is a backdoor trojan and deleted it from 2 of my pc's  :(  I assume it will do the rest of them when I allow a restart
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Post by UBT - The Prof.... »

Think I had this problem once before, though it was a long while ago. Now use AVG, not had any problems with any project so far, though not running this one at the moment.
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UBT - The Prof.... wrote:Think I had this problem once before, though it was a long while ago. Now use AVG, not had any problems with any project so far, though not running this one at the moment.
Strange thing is I wasn't running it either it just started throwing up security alerts.
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Ram Raider wrote:If you're running McAfee Virus Scan, beware
VirusScan Enterprise: The file C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\yoyo8.homedns.org_88_yoyo\crunch_1.01_windows_intelx86.exe is infected with Proxy-DistNet Trojan. The file was successfully deleted.(running VirusScan Enter 8.0 OAS)
This means the download fails as the file gets deleted immediately.

Anybody else seen this problem?

I use Avast on my other PCs and that's OK.
this problem as still not been sorted :(
just tried to to get work from yoyo and the wu's jost get chucked out as 'trojan' by mcafee....
oh well lets hope they get things sorted soon....





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Post by Ben »

The distributed.net client and runs OGR work units. This project searches for the shortest Optimal Golumb Ruler of the length 25. Some virus scanner false detect the client as trojan (list of known false detections).
That is what is said on the YoYo@Home homepage.
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Post by Sir Cracked of the Mind »

Well it goes like this.

"Am I willing to reduce my computer security in order to run Yoyo"

answer NO!

Their loss not mine.
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Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote:Well it goes like this.

"am I willing to reduce my computer security in order to run Yoyo"

answer NO!

Their loss not mine.
that was just about what i was thinking :(

yoyo makes a visit to this forum quite a few times, lets see if he has anything to say on this matter....



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Can't say anything new to this. I include the original distributed.net binary without any change. Distributed.net guys knows that some virus scanner detects there client as trojan and contacted already these companies. Some of them removed dnet from the data file, some not.
I fully respect if you do not disable your virus scanner for the boinc project and slot folder and if you will not change your scanner.
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Post by melter65 »

Thanks for answering our questions, yoyo! :(

As I don't use McAfeecrappy nonsecurity this doesn't affect me! 8)  :lol:  :lol:

So I will carry on crunching yoyo wu's without a worry!! :wink:  :D  :D

Roll on 'The OGR Challenge', I'll be running 100% yoyo on that!! :twisted:  :twisted:
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Post by Sir Cracked of the Mind »

You really know how to piss people off don't you Melter65, well screw you too jerk wad!

I'm off!
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Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote:You really know how to piss people off don't you Melter65, well screw you too jerk wad!

I'm off!
Hang on a moment, Sir Cracked!

My answer was meant to be slightly tongue in cheek, everybody (including me!) has had trouble with McAffee, Norton, Comodo and various other security suites/firewalls. I certainly wouldn't expect you to open your 'puter up to possible attack just to crunch a specific project!
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