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MLC@Home

Post by UBT - Mikee » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:15 pm

HI

Not sure if it's been mentioned here before but this now has windows64 support and stats are being exported.

https://classic.boincstats.com/en/stats/190/team/list/

The Scottish lads are a little ahead of us!

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Re: MLC@Home

Post by UBT - Timbo » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:00 am

Hi Mike

Thanks for the info - I had run it on my Linux host, but that was a test and since then a couple of Sprints have occurred.

But now a Windows app has been made available, I'll add that to my list of projects to crunch when Sprints are not forthcoming.

Also: Don't forget to tick the box on your Account Preferences where it says "Do you consent to exporting your data to BOINC statistics aggregation Web sites?"

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Re: MLC@Home

Post by Woodles » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:18 am

How come TSBT total is 1.1 million when their members contribution is 430k?!

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Post by ChelseaOilman » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:06 pm

Maybe the page you were looking at wasn't updated at the time. The members total is over 1 million.
https://www.mlcathome.org/mlcathome/tea ... avg_credit
Members of The Scottish Boinc Team
Name Total credit Recent average credit Country
1) Gibson Praise 339,040 16,868.13 Anguilla
2) Cruncher Pete 489,320 13,032.14 International
3) MarkRBright 100,100 4,287.74 United Kingdom
4) scole of TSBT 112,580 1,775.93
5) Alez [Founder] 112,060 1,761.00 Anguilla

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Re: MLC@Home

Post by Woodles » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:21 pm

Must be a GDPR thing, i was looking at https://classic.boincstats.com/en/stats ... /0/0/512/0 which only shows Gibson and MarkR.

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Re: MLC@Home

Post by Woodles » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:34 am

For those badge hunters amongst us, MLC is starting to give badges - https://www.mlcathome.org/mlcathome/for ... id=546#546

There's an "early adopters" one coming but you'll need to have finished at least one WU before 8th October.

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Re: MLC@Home

Post by wbiz » Wed May 12, 2021 2:18 pm

I'm wondering what's happened with mlc@home, on Raspberry Pi's it is one of the most generous credits per hour that I have found but currently there seems to be exceedingly little support for the project.

Although my priority is rosetta@home, work is currently very intermittent and mlc@home has been very useful to boost my credits way beyond what I get from some other projects eg yoyo@home.
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Post by UBT - Timbo » Wed May 12, 2021 8:21 pm

wbiz wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 2:18 pm
I'm wondering what's happened with mlc@home, on Raspberry Pi's it is one of the most generous credits per hour that I have found but currently there seems to be exceedingly little support for the project.

Although my priority is rosetta@home, work is currently very intermittent and mlc@home has been very useful to boost my credits way beyond what I get from some other projects eg yoyo@home.
Hi

I've not crunched any MLC tasks for a while, but looking at the BOINCstats page here:

https://classic.boincstats.com/en/stats/190/team/list/

It seems a lot of teams are earning credits...and the Server Status page here:

https://www.mlcathome.org/mlcathome/server_status.php

indicates that plenty of tasks are available too.

So, maybe there is an issue with your host(s) - or an issue with the project - though nothing seems to have been highlighted as a "big issue" on their messageboards.

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Re: MLC@Home

Post by wbiz » Thu May 13, 2021 12:55 am

Sorry, my bad wording, I'll try again ........

I can't understand why there are only there are only about 130 users a day and 200 users a week (source: boincstats) using MLC when it is such a generous credit generator - I was wondering if it had been "black-balled" or something.

While team-wise MLC looks fairly well supported, user-wise it certainly isn't.

In comparison YOYO has 880 users a day and 1550 users a week and I get a lot less credit per hour from YOYO compared to MLC.
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Re: MLC@Home

Post by Woodles » Thu May 13, 2021 9:27 am

MLC may pay well for Raspberry Pis but it's not a great place for 'normal' CPUs. Not bad but not the best.

Four hours work on a top end CPU for less than 1k credits? Fifty minutes on a 1660ti for 4k credits?

Four hours on YOYO with a mid range CPU gets you 1.3k credits. Fifty minutes on a 1660ti on PG gets you 39k credits (don't even look at the Collatz returns :o )

For many people it's the credits that matter not the actual project goals, people sign up for a new project, get their 100k/million/10 million credits then leave. Plenty of former members, not as many current ones.

Having said that it's all smoke and mirrors :lol:

MLC uses the GDPR setting which has to be explicitly enabled. So while any team with at least one person exporting stats shows up, many individuals don't (UBT has 10 people listed on Boincstats although there's actually 18 people with credit on the MLC site) YOYO doesn't use the setting, everyone gets their stats reported.

With a quick check, I found 1200+ people on the MLC site that had returned a task within the past five days. So similar to YOYO.

I see they've now got a GPU application so I may resume my chase of Mikee :D

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Re: MLC@Home

Post by wbiz » Thu May 13, 2021 3:02 pm

Thanks, I'd forgotten you had to explicitly switch the share data flag for boincstats to pick it up.

I noticed that MLC appears to do a fixed price credit system, I get 959.4 points never mind how long the task takes, usually around 31 hours at the moment but some as low as 22 hours in the past.

There aren't a lot of pickings for Raspberry Pi 64-bit, basically Rosetta, LHC, MLC and Yoyo. Einstein only works on 32-bit, though I'm fairly sure it should work on 64-bit if they tried but its not a good payout anyway.

I'm now running 8 CPU cores using roughly 20W of electricity, I don't think any "million" badges are in my sights this year unless I got nothing from Rosetta and MLC work holds up. If I could hook solar up I'd probably get a few more Pi's going but solar panels would probably be seen as target practice around here despite my CCTV forest.
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Re: MLC@Home

Post by Woodles » Thu May 13, 2021 3:38 pm

No worries, I forgot about GDPR at first hence the rambling on about credits and targets.

I agree you're limited in projects, I've actually for four Pis myself but they haven't ran in over a year as there's no real project for them :(

I would have given them a spin on MLC if I'd thought about it but now I imagine a single low level GPU will be much more productive.

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Re: MLC@Home

Post by UBT - Mikee » Fri May 14, 2021 1:11 pm

Woodles wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 9:27 am

I see they've now got a GPU application so I may resume my chase of Mikee :D
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Re: MLC@Home

Post by Woodles » Fri May 14, 2021 4:30 pm

UBT - Mikee wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 1:11 pm
Woodles wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 9:27 am
I see they've now got a GPU application so I may resume my chase of Mikee :D
You'll never make a spy! Thanks for the warning!
I said "may", it's really a ploy to distract you from my real objective :D

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