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New project looking for testers.

http://cosmos.astro.uiuc.edu/cosmohome/

From newsfeed -
June 7, 2007 Large-Scale Test and Limited Registration
Next week, we will be conducting a larger-scale test (greater than 50,000 workunits) of the project in order to see how it holds up under greater stress. It is vital that we test as many architectures as we can, so if you would like to participate in testing, send me an email at [skruger2 at uiuc dot edu] some time before Monday.
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Wish I knew how people found out about these new projects!

Needed a reason to bring back the 'kiss of Death' avatar so I've emailed!
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Nice find Ram Raider, email sent but don't know if I can tear myself away from ABC at the mo  Lol

Right, got the invitation code back and are crunching WU's.
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Team created but there's no 'Initiate transfer'.

Best watch this one as it's downloaded 100 WUs. Luckily they're only between 7 and 18 seconds but it seems to have made this computer really sluggish. Possbly because I've all ready got over a page full of 'Upload pendings!'

I'll do these 100 and have a little break! (Addicted to ABC at the moment!)
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Post by Ram Raider »

I finally got my invitation email back so I've joined you. I've downloaded a few work units but they are still waiting their turn to crunch.

By the way, I usually find out about new projects just by browsing the Boinc Synergy and Boincstats forums.

If you want to a list of BOINC projects, Tutta55 from the Belgian BOINC team maintains a comprehensive list at http://users.telenet.be/boinc/
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UBT - Mikee wrote:Wish I knew how people found out about these new projects!

Needed a reason to bring back the 'kiss of Death' avatar so I've emailed!
Care to tell me (and others?) who you emailed?

I can't find it on their website... :cry:

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Post by UBT - Chris Suddick »

Tim,

It tells you in the original post.

Chris.
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UBT - Chris Suddick wrote:Tim,

It tells you in the original post.

Chris.
Thanks Chris,

Doh ! Don't I look stoopid ??

That's the trouble - I keep looking for "highlighted" links, rather than anti spam harvesting phonetic links....

...I'll go to back to the corner of the room....

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Post by UBT - Rick Horn »

I can`t say I like the WUs I`m getting. Mine are taking between 12 and 15 seconds to complete. The 200 a day download limit won`t go very far at this rate.
Hope they give us some longer ones next week.

I just checked the site and they have
suspended registration for the time being. I just got in in time!
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June 8, 2007 Project Down
The project will be down for a while until we can make the necessary upgrades to our server and application. We will not be creating any more WUs until the test next week.

June 8, 2007 No More Invitations for Now
Thanks to everybody for such a tremendous showing of support for testing Cosmology@Home. I've had more than enough requests to help with testing at this point, so for now, registration is closed again.
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Hi all who have signed up to this project, is it my machines or the Boinc Manager or the WU's that are being sent, because the Boinc Manager is very slow and takes for ever to respond. Its almost like it will only allow you to work with the manager every 10 seconds or so?
I have also noted that although the WU's are short there seems to be 3 or 4 files to upload per WU? My machine was crunching faster than it can upload the results?
Any suggestions
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Timby wrote:Hi all who have signed up to this project, is it my machines or the Boinc Manager or the WUs that are being sent, because the Boinc Manager is very slow and takes for ever to respond. Its almost like it will only allow you to work with the manager every 10 seconds or so?
I have also noted that although the WUs are short there seems to be 3 or 4 files to upload per WU? My machine was crunching faster than it can upload the results?
Any suggestions
That's exactly what happened with mine this morning. I think you'll just have to leave it to it - all gets done eventually. Hopefully, as a BETA project, this will have been addressed before the next batch is released.
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Post by UBT - The Prof.... »

Having problems downloading wu's  :(
Keep getting messages like :-

08/06/2007 21:19:42|Cosmology@Home|[error] MD5 check failed for params_060707_222521_0.ini
08/06/2007 21:19:42|Cosmology@Home|[error] expected c46a19ca03fb55a011b333d44573898a, got 5782467cbbc1a14a78870367c054de99
08/06/2007 21:19:42|Cosmology@Home|[error] Checksum or signature error for params_060707_222521_0.ini

Could be because it's only it test mode do you think  :?:
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UBT - The Prof.... wrote:Having problems downloading WUs  :(
Keep getting messages like :-

08/06/2007 21:19:42|Cosmology@Home|[error] MD5 check failed for params_060707_222521_0.ini
08/06/2007 21:19:42|Cosmology@Home|[error] expected c46a19ca03fb55a011b333d44573898a, got 5782467cbbc1a14a78870367c054de99
08/06/2007 21:19:42|Cosmology@Home|[error] Checksum or signature error for params_060707_222521_0.ini

Could be because it's only it test mode do you think  :?:
What you should be getting now is...
08/06/2007 22:00:44|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
08/06/2007 22:00:44|Cosmology@Home|Requesting 1423 seconds of new work
08/06/2007 22:00:49|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
08/06/2007 22:00:49|Cosmology@Home|Deferring communication for 7 sec
08/06/2007 22:00:49|Cosmology@Home|Reason: requested by project
08/06/2007 22:00:49|Cosmology@Home|Deferring communication for 1 hr 34 min 5 sec
08/06/2007 22:00:49|Cosmology@Home|Reason: no work from project
http://cosmos.astro.uiuc.edu/cosmohome/ ... status.php

It's 'switched off' for the time being. I think it might be best if you 'reset project' ready for the next batch in the next week or so.
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June 11, 2007 New Test WUs Available
New test WUs are available, although these are considerably different than the last set of test WUs. Whereas previous WUs ran for about 15-30 seconds, these should run for about an hour. We are making a relatively small batch of WUs to see how well these work.
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Weyhey!

Got a Cosmology WU!

:lol:
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Post by UBT - Mikee »

Got 11 of the damn things! Supposed to run for around an hour - 2 are up to 1.5 hours. Bit of a pain not being able to see a progress percentage.

But at least they're quorums of 1 so you should get what you claim.

[edit] They're taking around 1.5 or 2.5 hours each on this PC.
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There is about 2000 wu ready for cosmology@home
Get em quick :wink:

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Post by Rockinfroggi »

Not had much time to keep up to date with things but noticed I've had a few cosmology WU and I only being granted around half the claimed credits?

Is this the norm, Nigel or Nicky? or is I being singled out cuz I'm short green and very very annoying?


Who's that frog.
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Just done the sums.  WUs took 20-25 mins each. Average credit was 1 per 6 1/4 mins crunching.
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So not very good then mmm :(
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Got wu, claims to take 20:23 to run. So far been running 32:37, no progress, no time reduction. Is this normal, or have I got a dud :?  :?:
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It was normal - don't know if they've fixed that yet. Should suddenly finish without warning!
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The admin is supposed to be sorting out the credit level this week. Hope he cranks it up a bit, it`s not exactly generous is it?

Average time per WU is around 20 minutes. Still no sign of the XML stats export which was supposed to have been sorted out last week. I left him a message today about it  but I suppose he`ll be too busy celebrating the 4th of July.

At least we`ve got some WUs to crunch. Keep up the good work guys.

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Post by UBT - The Prof.... »

Managing to get a few wu's at the moment. As stated, time scale on wu means zilch, just runs as it feels like doing and ends when good and ready  :!:
Ah well, beggers can't be choosers I suppose  :roll:
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UBT - Rick Horn wrote:The admin is supposed to be sorting out the credit level this week. Hope he cranks it up a bit, it`s not exactly generous is it?

Regards, Rick.
Hi Rick,

I'm embarrassed to admit thats why I've only crunched a couple of WUs. :oops:

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Gary wrote:
UBT - Rick Horn wrote:The admin is supposed to be sorting out the credit level this week. Hope he cranks it up a bit, it`s not exactly generous is it?

Regards, Rick.
Hi Rick,

I'm embarrassed to admit thats why I've only crunched a couple of WUs. :oops:

Gary
No problem Gary, every little helps.

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Ok Rick you got my attention i'll do a few on the lappy.

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UBT - Terry wrote:Ok Rick you got my attention i'll do a few on the lappy.

 Terry
Thanks a lot for your help Terry.
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I've already posted this on Cosmology thread. Rick, the project isn't accepting new accounts, so I can't attach and help out! :(
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UPDATE: Managed to join Cosmology at last, now waiting for WU's! :D
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Seems the database server has died!

http://cosmos.astro.uiuc.edu/cosmohome/ ... status.php

No access to the front page at all either.

I've suspended the 2 I had going - don't want to finish them until the project is back. As the server is down we can't get any but it'll be no problem as once it's been kicked we'll be able to download and carry on - hopefully!
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July 31, 2007 Server is back up
The server is back up after a couple of hours of downtime.
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Just tried to get some work and I'm getting communication deferred for 1 day?

No doubt I've missed a post somewhere while I've been in Costa del UCH.


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Rockinfroggi wrote:Just tried to get some work and I'm getting communication deferred for 1 day?

No doubt I've missed a post somewhere while I've been in Costa del UCH.


Gary.
I get that sometimes. Update sometimes does it.

What I do is make sure that I haven't got any left (if you haven't managed to get any yet you'll be OK on that!) then 'reset project' . If that doesn't work, a manager shutdown/restart normally sorts it. This is the only project I have to keep an eye on for this problem. I've got ABC set at 5% just in case!
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UBT - Mikee wrote:
Rockinfroggi wrote:Just tried to get some work and I'm getting communication deferred for 1 day?

No doubt I've missed a post somewhere while I've been in Costa del UCH.


Gary.
I get that sometimes. Update sometimes does it.

What I do is make sure that I haven't got any left (if you haven't managed to get any yet you'll be OK on that!) then 'reset project' . If that doesn't work, a manager shutdown/restart normally sorts it. This is the only project I have to keep an eye on for this problem. I've got ABC set at 5% just in case!

Thanks Mike, just reset and it's brought it down to 9 minutes, so I'll see what happens then.

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August 14, 2007 New URL for the Project
The new URL for Cosmology@Home is www.cosmologyathome.org. The old URL will still work to ensure there aren't any problems.
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I'll change to the new URL when I've finished a week of Cosmo :D
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First returned result on my rig and came up against what will be my next cpu.
http://www.cosmologyathome.org/workunit.php?wuid=380224
On that work unit i kicked its butt.
Shame it has twice the amount of cores.
Still won't be long and i will be quad too.
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Post by UBT - Mikee »

8/21/07 @ 5:11 PM CST - Post Rating and Work Generation

I've disabled post ratings since certain users are childishly down-rating posts made by people they don't like. Besides, does anybody really consider post ratings anyway?

Also, no more new work will be generated until the pending work count goes down. Users may find that work is hard to come by, but this will be a temporary roadblock.
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UBT - Mikee wrote:
8/21/07 @ 5:11 PM CST - Post Rating and Work Generation

I've disabled post ratings since certain users are childishly down-rating posts made by people they don't like. Besides, does anybody really consider post ratings anyway?

Also, no more new work will be generated until the pending work count goes down. Users may find that work is hard to come by, but this will be a temporary roadblock.
The suspension of work seems crazy to me with a fixed credit scheme.
Why not have a quorum of 1, then the backlog will go instantly?
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I'm still getting work this morning! :D
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Neither of my 2 machines ran out. Both have usually got 8 or so qued up.
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Post by UBT - The Prof.... »

Run out of wu's !!!
Still, gives other projects a chance.... :?
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Post by UBT - Chris Suddick »

I've just been looking at my pending WUs for Cosmology and I've got some that I received on 12th Aug which I returned within 24hrs that still haven't been sent to a second person yet. I think they should be looking at the reasons behind the backlog and doing something about it rather than just withholding WUs.

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More wu's seem to be on offer..
Have got one which is currently crunching away. Been running for over an hour and still going strong, as they do  :?
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Post by UBT - The Prof.... »

Just found this on Scottish Boinc Team site:-


Cosmology on the other hand is engaged in a real battle with UBT: The difference was about 4500 last time I checked which is less than half a days crunching at current rates.  :shock:  Which is why I'm rating it as a more urgent priority.

Anyway with the founders' crunch power climbing it'll be easier to juggle our priorities.
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Post by UBT - Rick Horn »

If Megacruncher sets up his stall, we don`t have much of a chance with his crunching power unless Temujin comes to our rescue again. We`re still in front of them, but this could change within hours.

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Post by MAVRIK »

I get it closer to 90,000 by the stats........don't know where the 4500 comes from!!!
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MAVRIK wrote:I get it closer to 90,000 by the stats........don't know where the 4500 comes from!!!
edit: cut this reply out, coz it was wrong !!

regards

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Post by MAVRIK »

Thanks for that ,even so its more than half a days crunching and would need someone with a fair amount of computers to crunch a 4500 rac and to leval us,then would need an higher rac to overtake us.

Did i make any sence there???
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The 4500 referred to was the credit gap between UBT & TSBT when the post was made, 10 days ago !!
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Temujin wrote:The 4500 referred to was the credit gap between UBT & TSBT when the post was made, 10 days ago !!
In which case, I stand corrected.....:oops:

I'll take my punishment silently, by shutting up...and therefore will not be able to "put my foot in it" again for a while....

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:D:D
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There is an undefined problem with the Cosmo server. All new completed WUs are going straight to "pending", and it seems that there are no more  WUs downloading at the moment
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Hi all,

I've had issues uploading completed WUs to Cosmology, since their URL change.

Seems there's been some issues at Cosmology.

See here
Posted 24 Jan 2008 19:01:13 UTC

Short story: I'm cancelling every WU and granting every "in progress", "error", or "successful" result credit.

Long story: the old URL is associated with every WU that was released in the 2.04 era, so I have to clear out *all* of them in order for the new results. People are going to get a gigantic amount of credit when this is all done, and I will be making a bunch of new WUs for crunching and things should *finally* be back to normal.
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So, if you have any Cosmology WUs and they aren't uploading, just detach and use the new URL to re-attach:

http://cosmologyathome.org

regards

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I changed the Cosmo url a while ago, but BOINC Manager is telling me it's the wrong url! Can this cause problems? :?
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melter65 wrote:I changed the Cosmo url a while ago, but BOINC Manager is telling me it's the wrong url! Can this cause problems? :?
It can cause uploading problems.
The new URL is:

http://cosmologyathome.org/

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Post by UBT - mickyb69 »

Gawd i love this project.
WU's all over the place taking anything from 1 hr 30 to 9 hours all for 80/100 credits.
My little AMD xp2000 loves them . WU's settling at 3 hrs....600 credits a day
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Post by UBT - Rick Horn »

Cosmology WUs are good value for your money these days.
They`re all coming at 50 credits each and complete in less than an hour, (average 52 mins. with a 2.4 GHz CPU).
And there`s plenty of them at the moment. Fill your boots!
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The Cosmology server will be out most of the day on Thurs. May 8th. for maintenance.
Make sure you have a good cache to tide you over.
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Is anyone having trouble uploading Cosmology WUs?
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yup. 20+ waiting to go.

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Yeh me too no cosmology no seti no ABC and now no team stats  :shock:
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Temujin`s stats are back up.
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UBT - Rick Horn wrote:Temujin`s stats are back up.
looks like a dodgy new memory stick :(
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Still unable to upload to Cosmology.

Looks like whoever broke it did a good job  :?
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:shock: Come on  :shock:
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Have finally managed to upload completed WU's this evening  :D

No new work coming down yet though  :cry:

Hopefully it is a step in the right direction.
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UBT - Nogbo wrote:Have finally managed to upload completed WU's this evening  :D

No new work coming down yet though  :cry:

Hopefully it is a step in the right direction.
I have 58 WUs "uploading" and 10 "ready to report", but none of them will upload yet.

Edit: now slowly uploading.
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Cosmology WUs are now downloading!  :D
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I think Scott, (Cosmology admin) is winding us all up.
This project, until recently, has had one of the best credit levels available.
Now, I think it is probably worse than WCG.
I hate to say this, but if you are looking for maximum credit, detach from Cosmology until such time that their admins take a serious look at the real world!
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Post by NaRyan »

You should read the message boards.
The "reason" for the high credits before were because sooo many failed, and the high credits were to make up for it.

Now that it work as it should (err what?) the credits are at a proper level, yeah 70 credits for 9 hours work.
Some peep over there is ranting about 150,000 - 180,000 of lost credits (due to pending credit that they won't get due to the application changing)

Good way to Kill your project Scott....
You may have got funding from NASA, but if no-one does the work, how long is said funding going to last :?
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You can see what the crunchers think about it:

http://boincstats.com/stats/project_gra ... =cosmology
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Post by UBT - mickyb69 »

:lol: Hope they saved some of that funding for a laptop  :lol:
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Post by NaRyan »

UBT - Rick Horn wrote:You can see what the crunchers think about it:

http://boincstats.com/stats/project_gra ... =cosmology
Well either a lot of peeps have stopped doing Cosmology, or the credit has gone total poop....
UBT - mickyb69 wrote::lol: Hope they saved some of that funding for a laptop  :lol:
I'm sure the Boinc Kredit Kops have already asked for some money to have a tea party.
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Post by UBT - Rick Horn »

There are some Cosmology WUs available at the moment if anyone is interested.

They are normally worth 140 credits each, regardless of length, and take between 2 hours and 6 hours to complete.

On average, I guess a 4 hour completion time is about right.
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Post by UBT - Rick Horn »

After a long absence, Cosmo is finally up and running, with plenty of work available.

Edit: the last WU I did took over 20 hours to complete. The credit? Just 140!
Now detached from project!
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Post by ed little »

I keep getting "download failed" whenever BOINC tries to download any new work... anyone else getting this problem?
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Post by UBT - Rick Horn »

ed little wrote:I keep getting "download failed" whenever BOINC tries to download any new work... anyone else getting this problem?
Yes, me too.
They have been running some test units, so you could get some strange results for a while.
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Post by RodEllery »

Something funny seems to be going on here. Last night I suddenly got given an extra 5000 points  :D . Couldn't see anything about this on their message boards when I looked tho.
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Post by UBT - mickyb69 »

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: Me tooo :lol:
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Post by Temujin »

From their front page
April 28, 2009
A total of 5000 credits have been added to profiles of all active Csomo@home users. This is meant for expired/failed WUs due to project down-time and to compensate for the earlier low credit per WU payment for resource intensive CAMB 2.16 WUs. Also, the time bound for these new WUs has been incresaed from 10 days to 15 days which should be enough to complete crunching them even on machines ~5 years old
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Post by UBT - Rick Horn »

Temujin wrote:From their front page
April 28, 2009
A total of 5000 credits have been added to profiles of all active Csomo@home users. This is meant for expired/failed WUs due to project down-time and to compensate for the earlier low credit per WU payment for resource intensive CAMB 2.16 WUs. Also, the time bound for these new WUs has been incresaed from 10 days to 15 days which should be enough to complete crunching them even on machines ~5 years old
It seems that everyone has been given 5000 credits, even zero rated crunchers.  :roll:
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Post by Temujin »

UBT - Rick Horn wrote:It seems that everyone has been given 5000 credits, even zero rated crunchers.  :roll:
But not the team, we have 100+ cosmo members who each received 5000 credits but the team score hasn't seen any of it :(
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Post by RodEllery »

Thanks for the info John.

Strange about it not affecting team credits though.
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